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Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

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headscrewedon
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by headscrewedon »

bigtee wrote:Yeah, we have certainly been mugged off with this one.

What makes it so annoying, when you ask the union reps, no-one seems to know what's in this agreement.
Why do you blame the reps for not telling you what's in the agreement ? It's available on the CWU website for anyone to download and read FFS !!! Even non-union people can read it, as you don't have to log in with a membership number to be able to download it :arrrghhh
bigtee
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by bigtee »

headscrewedon wrote:
bigtee wrote:Yeah, we have certainly been mugged off with this one.

What makes it so annoying, when you ask the union reps, no-one seems to know what's in this agreement.
Why do you blame the reps for not telling you what's in the agreement ? It's available on the CWU website for anyone to download and read FFS !!! Even non-union people can read it, as you don't have to log in with a membership number to be able to download it :arrrghhh
Surely a copy should have been placed on the union's notice board Thursday evening, we still didn't have the agreement as of 6pm Friday? not everyone has internet!
kwikpost
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by kwikpost »

your lucky to of only lost £160. i've lost 18 day's pay.
bigtee
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by bigtee »

kwikpost wrote:your lucky to of only lost £160. i've lost 18 day's pay.
I feel for you mate, i only lost 2 days pay and for what? a period of calm, it's ridiculous. if Dave "the fraud" Ward thinks the cwu members will be satisfied with this period of calm bollox, then he really is urinating up our backs.
eian687
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by eian687 »

was the same in 2007 we had them on the back foot and after the PEC looking at the agreement for a week to make sure the were no loop holes they aggreed the 2007 pay and modrnisation agreement ............with more holes than a sieve
if this one goes the same way i will opt out of the CWU and see who else is out there (transport and general workers maybe) :crazy:
barbario
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by barbario »

westlondonpostie wrote:Don't we the membership have to vote on whether we accept any final Deal, If we don't like the finished article, Vote No!!!

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Thats just the point.there is NO DEAL
weetrogg
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by weetrogg »

For the I/A to be suspended and the "interim agreement" to be acceptable to me it needed to contain the following as a minimum

1) An immediate suspension of all unagreed lapsing/absorbing
2) An immediate standing down of these outhouses/scab units
3) An immediate independant review into bullying&harrassment
4) An immediate independant review into workrates and workloads
5) A public commitment by RM to go to acas to negotiate a binding national agreement

Now correct me if im wrong but the reasons above are why we were striking, yet having read the interim agreement non of this is guaranteed, so why call off the I/A?? Thank christ ive only took 2 days I/A an i still feel let down by HQ, if id took 15 or more days I/A like lots of others have id be f@+kig furious. Seriously if this goes the same way as 2007 the pec need to be removed en masse. Fool me once, shame on you,fool me twice shame on me!! :sad: :sad:

I think the above list would have justified a suspension of I/A but this "agreement" falls way short :sad: :sad: :sad: I would appreciate it if anybody can enlighten me of the plus points or concessions in this agreement

WE are the union :nana :nana :nana
Sci_Dog
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Re: Dont ever ask me for a yes vote again

Post by Sci_Dog »

weetrogg wrote:For the I/A to be suspended and the "interim agreement" to be acceptable to me it needed to contain the following as a minimum

1) An immediate suspension of all unagreed lapsing/absorbing
2) An immediate standing down of these outhouses/scab units
3) An immediate independant review into bullying&harrassment
4) An immediate independant review into workrates and workloads
5) A public commitment by RM to go to acas to negotiate a binding national agreement

Now correct me if im wrong but the reasons above are why we were striking, yet having read the interim agreement non of this is guaranteed, so why call off the I/A?? Thank christ ive only took 2 days I/A an i still feel let down by HQ, if id took 15 or more days I/A like lots of others have id be f@+kig furious. Seriously if this goes the same way as 2007 the pec need to be removed en masse. Fool me once, shame on you,fool me twice shame on me!! :sad: :sad:

I think the above list would have justified a suspension of I/A but this "agreement" falls way short :sad: :sad: :sad: I would appreciate it if anybody can enlighten me of the plus points or concessions in this agreement


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