As we were saying: lessons of the 1971 postal strike

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 31 Jul 2007, 16:35

http://www.workersliberty.org/node/8891

In 1977 postal workers struck over pay, conditions and mechanisation. Solidarityâ€™s forerunner, Socialist Organiser, printed these articles about the lessons of the previous dispute in 1971.

How the job was changed

By Pete Keenlyside

IN 1971 members of the UCW (then called the UPW) [the postal side of todayâ€™s CWU] went on strike for seven weeks. They returned defeated, sold out by their own Executive.

After that, most postal workers said theyâ€™d strike again. Every time you got up to oppose some lousy pay deal or other, the cry went up â€œRemember 1971â€

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 31 Jul 2007, 16:49

Pete Keenlyside is a good bloke. Come on Pete! Leave the Labour Party comrade! You know they're the enemy of everything YOU stand for like fairness, peace, international brotherhood, solidarity, socialism.

pillar box · Post by **pillar box** » 08 Oct 2007, 19:24

Nice one pete I was there in the 70s and all what you say is true,

Tut!Tut! IWW Fellow Worker their is room for all political parties in a true democratic country.
to say that The "only good fascist is a dead one" is undemocratic.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 08 Oct 2007, 19:37

pillar box wrote:Nice one pete I was there in the 70s and all what you say is true,

Tut!Tut! IWW Fellow Worker their is room for all political parties in a true democratic country.
to say that The "only good fascist is a dead one" is undemocratic.

Next time I you come across a true democratic country, be sure to let me know. In the meantime, the only good fascist is a dead one. If that wasn't the case, this country made a big mistake standing up to Hitler, but I don't think it did, even if you obviously do.

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 08 Oct 2007, 19:53

outstanding article

pillar box · Post by **pillar box** » 09 Oct 2007, 19:22

IWW Worker You already live in a democratic country, thousands of allied troops died for people like you can have freedom of expression that you enjoy today by using this site.
remember Stalin was just has bad as Hitler.
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IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 09 Oct 2007, 19:29

pillar box wrote:IWW Worker You already live in a democratic country, thousands of allied troops died for people like you can have freedom of expression that you enjoy today by using this site.
remember Stalin was just has bad as Hitler.
t

What has Stalin got to with it? Anyway, you're the one getting all upset because I don't like fascists. As for democracy, if putting a cross on a piece of paper every five years then letting those con-men get on with it with no further input from you is your idea of democracy, you're easily pleased and you are a credit to the system which is out to screw us.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 09 Oct 2007, 20:55

pillar box wrote:IWW Worker You already live in a democratic country, thousands of allied troops died for people like you can have freedom of expression that you enjoy today by using this site.
remember Stalin was just has bad as Hitler.
t

But in a democracy surely IWW Worker is entitled to hold these beliefs, as unfortunately are the BNP, so long as he does not carry out his beliefs by killing them his point of view is as valid as everyone else's.

Some people argue that Stalin was worse - read Max Hastings Armageddon

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 09 Oct 2007, 20:59

I still don't see what Stalin has to do with anything. There are no CPB members on here are there?

majeed · Post by **majeed** » 29 Oct 2007, 17:48

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
pillar box wrote:IWW Worker You already live in a democratic country, thousands of allied troops died for people like you can have freedom of expression that you enjoy today by using this site.
remember Stalin was just has bad as Hitler.
t

What has Stalin got to with it? Anyway, you're the one getting all upset because I don't like fascists. As for democracy, if putting a cross on a piece of paper every five years then letting those con-men get on with it with no further input from you is your idea of democracy, you're easily pleased and you are a credit to the system which is out to screw us.

Incidentally, it is the civil servants, businessmen and lobby groups that run the country: not the government, and these three too, are not elected.

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 29 Oct 2007, 18:15

Majeed... They are called Parasites and fatcats,,,, Take your pick but all they do is scrounge off of the working tax paying people of these lands...

The service we provide will be just a money making scheme for the peoples you mentioned....

OUT

majeed · Post by **majeed** » 29 Oct 2007, 18:19

L Tommo wrote:Majeed... They are called Parasites and fatcats,,,, Take your pick but all they do is scrounge off of the working tax paying people of these lands...

The service we provide will be just a money making scheme for the peoples you mentioned....

OUT

Well, it is well publicised that the pay packets of MPs rise above inflation every year and also their expenses seem to rise similarly.

devrim · Post by **devrim** » 24 Oct 2009, 11:28

There was a pamphlet published by the libertarian socialist group 'Solidarity' written by a postman called Joe Jacobs called sorting out the national postal strike. I used to have a copy but don't anymore.

Devrim

devrim · Post by **devrim** » 24 Oct 2009, 12:15

For anyone who really wants a copy:
http://www.bolerium.com/cgi-bin/bol48/o ... arg=122599" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Devrim

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