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Don`t fall for it CWU !!
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rhino49
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Re: Don`t fall for it CWU !!
Outandabout wrote.....
I am afraid that Lord Mandelson's attitude that if we are ridiculed enough by him we will go away, will backfire on him. Never have I seen or listened to so unbelievable a person, and I have watched a few over the years. The public do not trust him, his colleagues in the Labour Party (and the Conservative Party when he switches sides to cling onto a salary) do not trust him and most importantly I do not trust him.
Royal Mail's board only wants ONE winner - guess who?. Negotiations without power are not negotiations. Until the ballot result, every meeting between Royal Mail and the CWU took the form of a lecture on how the workforce will do what Royal Mail wants. We can now exert a consistent pressure (although maybe not to the neck as I perhaps unwisely suggested earlier) on Royal Mails board and actually turn them into negotiators instead of tyrants. The situation we are in as a workforce is slowly but surely being outlined in the media as more and more people speak out and journalists curiosity is aroused. This will no doubt increase the pressure for a solution to be found to the present impasse.I have been reading the threads. How is it wrong to negotiate? Surely thats the objective of the strike? If it can achieve its aims without disruption to workers pay packets, career prospects, and without losing the royal mail a lot of business and so losing jobs, isnt everyone a winner?
I am afraid that Lord Mandelson's attitude that if we are ridiculed enough by him we will go away, will backfire on him. Never have I seen or listened to so unbelievable a person, and I have watched a few over the years. The public do not trust him, his colleagues in the Labour Party (and the Conservative Party when he switches sides to cling onto a salary) do not trust him and most importantly I do not trust him.
We wish to serve - but we will not be servile
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outandabout
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Re: Don`t fall for it CWU !!
dvbuk55 wrote:Career prospects? Get real! People can't even get a full time contract let alone a career prospect. Are you a little bit worried that you are going to have to work much harder come Thursday or Friday - you are going to blink first - especially with the "30,000 vetted recruits"outandabout wrote:I have been reading the threads. How is it wrong to negotiate? Surely thats the objective of the strike? If it can achieve its aims without disruption to workers pay packets, career prospects, and without losing the royal mail a lot of business and so losing jobs, isnt everyone a winner?donut wrote:I see your quite new on here ....it would be a good idear for you to scan some of the threads for the facts...and educate yourself.so how is any dispute ended.... by negotiation. Isnt that what Billy has been calling for, for acas to get involved. would be a good thing if they were.- you'll spend more time on the phone than on your backside.
so, a veiled dig that I am a manager. Nope, sorry, have never worked for RM. Some people need to grow up so they can have a sensible discussion and progress the debate
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dvbuk55
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Re: Don`t fall for it CWU !!
I apologise oanda - I assumed you knew what you were talking about - you see these "negotiations" are merely a one stop shop for RMs vision for the future without any discussion and the industrial action has been ongoing since March - you see some people will not listen they assume they are always right. I feel sure you will be familiar with that scenario.outandabout wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:Career prospects? Get real! People can't even get a full time contract let alone a career prospect. Are you a little bit worried that you are going to have to work much harder come Thursday or Friday - you are going to blink first - especially with the "30,000 vetted recruits"outandabout wrote:I have been reading the threads. How is it wrong to negotiate? Surely thats the objective of the strike? If it can achieve its aims without disruption to workers pay packets, career prospects, and without losing the royal mail a lot of business and so losing jobs, isnt everyone a winner?donut wrote:I see your quite new on here ....it would be a good idear for you to scan some of the threads for the facts...and educate yourself.so how is any dispute ended.... by negotiation. Isnt that what Billy has been calling for, for acas to get involved. would be a good thing if they were.- you'll spend more time on the phone than on your backside.
so, a veiled dig that I am a manager. Nope, sorry, have never worked for RM. Some people need to grow up so they can have a sensible discussion and progress the debate