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Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Ogg
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by Ogg »

infidel wrote:unit rep not fit to call yourself one,been through all the in early etc stuff,go to confession will be only person interested.

PS KILL THIS SITE TOPIC THIS GUY WEARS AN APRON NOT FIT FOR A MAILBAG.
Yes kill this now, if only to capture the one reply that genuinely made me laugh, apron indeed :Very Happy

I do apologise for going on and on, truly, but hopefully a colleague will confirm my promise at work this morning to wind people up here because I can assure you that you have been...and thoroughly deserved too. No one gives a f*ck in our office who strikes or not and that says it all for me.
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by Thorby Bislam »

Ogg has a point with his last post there. Between RM on one side and CWU on the other, us poor posties in the middle are going to get well and truly shat on. You think these are hard times ? They're nothing compared to how things are going to be in the future.
I cant afford to strike either. I'm not going to whine about my circumstances, but every days pay really matters to me.
And guess what ? I'll be on the picket line with my colleagues on Friday. Aye, and every other strike day an' all. I've never scabbed yet and by God, I never will.
Just spilt stain-remover down my shirt. Now how do I get that out?
steviemac
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by steviemac »

loss of £60 for a day's pay and everybody's world falls apart ........unbelievable
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jaja
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by jaja »

steviemac wrote:loss of £60 for a day's pay and everybody's world falls apart ........unbelievable
£60 = one tank of fuel....depends on what type of car you drive of course
BELIAL
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by BELIAL »

Dear oh dear poor old "ex rep" Ogg ,something touched a nerve. Looks like you might not be exactly what you claim.
I could hold my head high and look your kind straight in the eye all day every day. Guess what? I do it on a daily basis, it truly is a sad sight watching a broken man shrivel at your gaze and fix his eyes on the floor as his shoulders slump and he slides away :chuckle
Bye
infidel
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by infidel »

GIE THE WOMAN a break were holding him back ,let him get on ironing ,hoovering,dishes,wife will be back soon from
shopping trip on the plastic.


hope she got him a gag.
p0pe
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by p0pe »

Im a postie and a union memeber and since this all started all iv witnessed is bullying and intimadation to others which is not what i joined the union for people have the right to make a decision its there god given right from the minute there brought into this world. The last time i checked if ya wanted suport from ur collagues you earned it not forced people into it.

I agree there is problems but if the jobs not up to ur liking get a new one theres plenty of people waiting to take ur place times change we have to change to and work our hours ur better with a job than not and all we are doing is making less jobs to go around. Im that young that my pension was naked from when i started so i just get on with it. striking was the way in the 70's not now and iv been in the job 12 years.

When the union first called for a strike it was about 2007 agreement but they have changed the goal posts now its about pay and everything else they buggered up the last time. RM's taking on temps TnT is trying to get on the streets and the compitition is taking our parcels and packets our jobs are going down the river with everyday we talk about striking nevermind doing it.

The goverments naked the country which it cant fix so along with others we are a distraction and a get out of jail card for them while we fight between ourselfs
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

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When will this thread become a stickie? It's bloody massive! LoL
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

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Sci_Dog wrote:When will this thread become a stickie? It's bloody massive! LoL
Speaking of stickie - have you checked the Omar does Higson website yet :Very Happy :Very Happy
kwf166
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by kwf166 »

Well I just came back from a meeting our union rep organise, and I probaby mention before that my office didn't seem to be that bother what is happening around the country,and why we are striking etc, I myself had a good idea why we should strike for a long while, thanks to the information I get on here, but after this excellent meeting earlier tonight, they are now, and some are in shock, at what plans Royal Mail management are trying to being in, its important that every postal worker in this country, must not give in and must get behind the union 100 percent, and the way to do that is by not going into work on Friday, because if you do, not only are you putting your job at risk in the future, but also all your colleagues.
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by kwf166 »

p0pe wrote:Im a postie and a union memeber and since this all started all iv witnessed is bullying and intimadation to others which is not what i joined the union for people have the right to make a decision its there god given right from the minute there brought into this world. The last time i checked if ya wanted suport from ur collagues you earned it not forced people into it.

I agree there is problems but if the jobs not up to ur liking get a new one theres plenty of people waiting to take ur place times change we have to change to and work our hours ur better with a job than not and all we are doing is making less jobs to go around. Im that young that my pension was naked from when i started so i just get on with it. striking was the way in the 70's not now and iv been in the job 12 years.

When the union first called for a strike it was about 2007 agreement but they have changed the goal posts now its about pay and everything else they buggered up the last time. RM's taking on temps TnT is trying to get on the streets and the compitition is taking our parcels and packets our jobs are going down the river with everyday we talk about striking nevermind doing it.

The goverments naked the country which it cant fix so along with others we are a distraction and a get out of jail card for them while we fight between ourselfs
I think you need to look at the 2007 agreement, and than tell us what mistakes and agreements, Royal mail have broken.
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by peejay14 »

I'm sorry, but the union holds no appeal for me. At our meeting with the manager this morning he told us that he didn't know why our postcode was striking, and straight away a postie responded by stating that his (the manager's) view was not the view of the union. I considered the next pointless 15 minutes of small talk about the whys and wherefores of the strike to be a waste of my time, and I didn't get out the office until nearly 11am. The debate is so complex and nothing was achieved, but it shows the strength of feeling. To be honest our manager was smiling through gritted teeth at the brazenness of the postie who felt moved to respond. I also felt that the manager's position was not respected, and I feel that union membership can be used as an excuse to justify disrespect and disharmony in the office. I had made my position clear and that I was reluctant to cross the picket line on my way to work, and so the same postie turned to me in front of all and said that one way around my problem would be to join the union myself. Keen to hit the streets, I did not respond to my fellow postie's kind invitation to join the fold. Still didn't get finished till after 3pm!

I am not reading too much into either side's weighty arguments. I am keeping my eyes firmly fixed on the street ahead, occasionally glancing down to check the address of the top letter. I probably have no place on this board, as I don't really have any strong opinions that either side could support or contend with. I'm neutral in colour, and while being a postie is the best and most respectable job I've ever had, I am willing to do most jobs. Saying that, leaving the company would be very disappointing. I'll be a postie as long as there's mail to deliver, and with any luck I'll be able to adapt as the company modernises to keep up with the world around us. I myself receive my bank statements online, just because it's more convenient. I'm not surprised people on here found my first post boring. I am being boring, I'm not really getting involved. I feel a gratitude and a respect towards the company I am employed by.

Don't know about you guys, but I am not confident that the nature of the job of postie has much 'staying power' in today's high-tech world. I don't see the need for posties increasing, but rather decreasing in the near future. Yet I believe that as the nature of the job changes, there will still be the need for workers. If I show my commitment to my employer now, then they will see that I want to be a part of their future plan. That's all I want to fight for, my own place on the company's payroll. By my very nature, I feel constantly challenged to prove my worth, and never feel that my job is secure, especially when so many good folks all around are lining up at the job centre. I don't even rate myself as a particularly great postie, a bit average is nearer the mark. I don't have it within me to stand up and challenge my employer, I barely have enough strength to complete my duties in the time permitted, but to use the analogy already used above I am determined to soldier on and give as much as it takes to prolong my employment.
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

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peejay14 wrote:I'm sorry, but the union holds no appeal for me. At our meeting with the manager this morning he told us that he didn't know why our postcode was striking, and straight away a postie responded by stating that his (the manager's) view was not the view of the union. I considered the next pointless 15 minutes of small talk about the whys and wherefores of the strike to be a waste of my time, and I didn't get out the office until nearly 11am. The debate is so complex and nothing was achieved, but it shows the strength of feeling. To be honest our manager was smiling through gritted teeth at the brazenness of the postie who felt moved to respond. I also felt that the manager's position was not respected, and I feel that union membership can be used as an excuse to justify disrespect and disharmony in the office. I had made my position clear and that I was reluctant to cross the picket line on my way to work, and so the same postie turned to me in front of all and said that one way around my problem would be to join the union myself. Keen to hit the streets, I did not respond to my fellow postie's kind invitation to join the fold. Still didn't get finished till after 3pm!

I am not reading too much into either side's weighty arguments. I am keeping my eyes firmly fixed on the street ahead, occasionally glancing down to check the address of the top letter. I probably have no place on this board, as I don't really have any strong opinions that either side could support or contend with. I'm neutral in colour, and while being a postie is the best and most respectable job I've ever had, I am willing to do most jobs. Saying that, leaving the company would be very disappointing. I'll be a postie as long as there's mail to deliver, and with any luck I'll be able to adapt as the company modernises to keep up with the world around us. I myself receive my bank statements online, just because it's more convenient. I'm not surprised people on here found my first post boring. I am being boring, I'm not really getting involved. I feel a gratitude and a respect towards the company I am employed by.

Don't know about you guys, but I am not confident that the nature of the job of postie has much 'staying power' in today's high-tech world. I don't see the need for posties increasing, but rather decreasing in the near future. Yet I believe that as the nature of the job changes, there will still be the need for workers. If I show my commitment to my employer now, then they will see that I want to be a part of their future plan. That's all I want to fight for, my own place on the company's payroll. By my very nature, I feel constantly challenged to prove my worth, and never feel that my job is secure, especially when so many good folks all around are lining up at the job centre. I don't even rate myself as a particularly great postie, a bit average is nearer the mark. I don't have it within me to stand up and challenge my employer, I barely have enough strength to complete my duties in the time permitted, but to use the analogy already used above I am determined to soldier on and give as much as it takes to prolong my employment.
:chuckle :d'oh! Dude, you could have saved us all some time and just said "I am a reluctant but resigned slave"
PS my lawn needs cutting and I need you to prove your worth :cuppa
Bye
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

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Ho Hum Peejay14 - yawn.
Sci_Dog
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.

Post by Sci_Dog »

Terry Hurlock wrote:
peejay14 wrote:I'm sorry, but the union holds no appeal for me. At our meeting with the manager this morning he told us that he didn't know why our postcode was striking, and straight away a postie responded by stating that his (the manager's) view was not the view of the union. I considered the next pointless 15 minutes of small talk about the whys and wherefores of the strike to be a waste of my time, and I didn't get out the office until nearly 11am. The debate is so complex and nothing was achieved, but it shows the strength of feeling. To be honest our manager was smiling through gritted teeth at the brazenness of the postie who felt moved to respond. I also felt that the manager's position was not respected, and I feel that union membership can be used as an excuse to justify disrespect and disharmony in the office. I had made my position clear and that I was reluctant to cross the picket line on my way to work, and so the same postie turned to me in front of all and said that one way around my problem would be to join the union myself. Keen to hit the streets, I did not respond to my fellow postie's kind invitation to join the fold. Still didn't get finished till after 3pm!

I am not reading too much into either side's weighty arguments. I am keeping my eyes firmly fixed on the street ahead, occasionally glancing down to check the address of the top letter. I probably have no place on this board, as I don't really have any strong opinions that either side could support or contend with. I'm neutral in colour, and while being a postie is the best and most respectable job I've ever had, I am willing to do most jobs. Saying that, leaving the company would be very disappointing. I'll be a postie as long as there's mail to deliver, and with any luck I'll be able to adapt as the company modernises to keep up with the world around us. I myself receive my bank statements online, just because it's more convenient. I'm not surprised people on here found my first post boring. I am being boring, I'm not really getting involved. I feel a gratitude and a respect towards the company I am employed by.

Don't know about you guys, but I am not confident that the nature of the job of postie has much 'staying power' in today's high-tech world. I don't see the need for posties increasing, but rather decreasing in the near future. Yet I believe that as the nature of the job changes, there will still be the need for workers. If I show my commitment to my employer now, then they will see that I want to be a part of their future plan. That's all I want to fight for, my own place on the company's payroll. By my very nature, I feel constantly challenged to prove my worth, and never feel that my job is secure, especially when so many good folks all around are lining up at the job centre. I don't even rate myself as a particularly great postie, a bit average is nearer the mark. I don't have it within me to stand up and challenge my employer, I barely have enough strength to complete my duties in the time permitted, but to use the analogy already used above I am determined to soldier on and give as much as it takes to prolong my employment.
YOUR DEAD RIGHT GO AND BE NEGATIVE AND BORING SOMEWHERE ELSE OR BETTER STILL START LOOKING FOR ANOTHER JOB QUICK ,BECAUSE THIS ONES ABOUT TO GO DOWN THE SHITTER. :wave

You have just commented on someone being negative....yet in the very same post you write 'start looking for another job quick, because this ones about to go down the shitter'. A contradiction perhaps? Who's been negative now?
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