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BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
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Cheetah
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BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
What a missed oppurtunity
...... My day off today and just watched the head of something or other for RM, probably paid a telephone number for a wage open the door to our Bill, as when asked 3 times by the interviewer would not answer if RM would go to ACAS before thurs to avert the strike, ending in the interviewer saying we will take that as a NO then......Enter our Billy interviewed by Bill Turnbull, for me he gave a incompetent, childlike performance, when we needed a competent, confident and factual display exploiting the fact RM will not use independant help to solve this pottentially damaging dispute regarding their unachevable and totaly destructive unfair demands.....He mearly touched on the core issues surounding the dispute, took no control over the interview when the opportunity was deffinatally there to put our side to the public..... The final failure came when he was asked if he would call off the dispute if RM would go to ACAS he evaided the question like RM
.....It is evedent to me RM have NO intention of going to ACAS of their own free will even after being asked to do so by Mandelson hence a MASSIVE opportunity to portray to the public we are the ones being reasonable here
and wanting to avert a damaging dispute, people would have been thinking well what has RM got to hide??, even if he was unable to get our side of the story across......Now i think our unit reps and 99% of our area reps do a brilliant job for little or the mainly no re-numaration for their time or efforts (this should change IMHO distribute our union subs to the grass roots as well as top officials),but paying someone what is rumoured to be just shy of £100,000 we want value for money
and i honestly believe i could have put our side across much better than Bill Hayes did who seemed more interested in cracking jokes about Bill Turnbull's exploits on strictly come dancing
...... If your not up to the job Bill get out and let someone take over who is!!!!!!
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pickaname
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
Dave Ward for leader
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felang13
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
NO NO NO NO NO to stopping the strike .We let them off the hook last time ....8 weeks from christmas ....they will blink first !!
FT early OPG
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viking1488
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
yes bring dave ward in makes sence to me seem to think that he has the balls where billy hayes is lacking
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Cheetah
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
So you want to go on strike anyway then, even if ACAS could resolve the dispute in our favour i take itfelang13 wrote:NO NO NO NO NO to stopping the strike .We let them off the hook last time ....8 weeks from christmas ....they will blink first !!
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viking1488
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
royal mail want this on there terms on the news just the royal mail where just talking about Modernisation dont think they get the point here i seem to think the strikes will go ahead at the end of the weekCheetah wrote:So you want to go on strike anyway then, even if ACAS could resolve the dispute in our favour i take itfelang13 wrote:NO NO NO NO NO to stopping the strike .We let them off the hook last time ....8 weeks from christmas ....they will blink first !!. Firstly don't be sure they will blink first, if RM folded tomorrow it wouldn't bother Crozier & co and their fortunes would be intact as they moved onto the next position. Secondly don't take the support of all CWU members for granted i think unlike us some have voted for IA in the hope it won't come to it!!! and as the dispute drags on will cross the line and there ain't too much we can do to stop them without getting the sack!!!......Everyone will come out of the strike with a bloody nose (don't thinki'm worried about striking caus i am 100% behind the union and the cause) so if it can be settled on our terms let's do it i say.
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
YEAH
higson was on saying get acas in and we will talk about THE FUTURE
but call off the strikes, so we can talk about now, RM and the CWU , this dickhead is out of touch. and he is our CHIEF!
ffs
royal mail will not back down, we NEED to strike, and continue to strike. they think us posties will blink first

higson was on saying get acas in and we will talk about THE FUTURE
but call off the strikes, so we can talk about now, RM and the CWU , this dickhead is out of touch. and he is our CHIEF!
ffs
royal mail will not back down, we NEED to strike, and continue to strike. they think us posties will blink first
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Cheetah
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
No Higson whatever his name is said they would only get ACAS in to discuss certain things obviously of their choosing . When pressed if he would agree to get them in before thurs to avert a strike he was asked three times and wouldn't answer, the interviewer said i'll take that as a no then..... My point is we can all remember the privitisation dispute which was won by the union and massive public support. If we could get the public back on side as i don't think we have the support we have enjoyed in the past this would carry a lot of weight with the government, and like it or not that's who this dispute is with as they own and support RM, this was an excellent opportunity to do so.... As regards a strike i am quite happy to go out for 12 mth's if neccesary to win this battle, but we all need to take account that some are not going to go out at all, and others will drift back after days.....We are classed as a strong office by area union officials yet me and others are fighting already to keep people on side, a good number saying they will give it a few days etc. Why push there resolve and risk being split and possibly beaten as well as the damage it will do to our customers..... I say again if we can solve this dispute ON OUR TERMS with the minimum damage to all let's do itmandelsons_toenail wrote:YEAH
higson was on saying get acas in and we will talk about THE FUTURE
but call off the strikes, so we can talk about now, RM and the CWU , this dickhead is out of touch. and he is our CHIEF!![]()
ffs
royal mail will not back down, we NEED to strike, and continue to strike. they think us posties will blink first
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Destroyer
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Personally as much as i respect both Billy & Dave who have both served us well over the years, we need a much more tougher, much more vocal no-nonsense leader that the company knows wont bend over or take a backhander 'Keggies Deal' ;-)
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POSTMAN
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
Hayes f****d us this morning on the BBC,and it's getting silly,i saw the tail end of his interview in the canteen,and near the end the interviewer ask him about the 3 month 'moratorium' and how RM want it so we should stop striking.
Instead of telling the interviewer that the CWU have been offering this for months and the only reason RM want it now is because they have exec act us for all that time and have finished for the year,he skirted round it and made himself and US look silly.
The canteen was full of blue shirts screaming at the tele for him to say it.
He's made things worse imo
PS:WTF is the fecking is it with him and the tango thing!
Instead of telling the interviewer that the CWU have been offering this for months and the only reason RM want it now is because they have exec act us for all that time and have finished for the year,he skirted round it and made himself and US look silly.
The canteen was full of blue shirts screaming at the tele for him to say it.
He's made things worse imo
PS:WTF is the fecking is it with him and the tango thing!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Cheetah
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
POSTMAN wrote:Hayes f****d us this morning on the BBC,and it's getting silly,i saw the tail end of his interview in the canteen,and near the end the interviewer ask him about the 3 month 'moratorium' and how RM want it so we should stop striking.
Instead of telling the interviewer that the CWU have been offering this for months and the only reason RM want it now is because they have exec act us for all that time and have finished for the year,he skirted round it and made himself and US look silly.
The canteen was full of blue shirts screaming at the tele for him to say it.
He's made things worse imo
PS:WTF is the fecking is it with him and the tango thing!
He is weak and cow tows to the labour goverment like happened in the last dispute which helped lead to the position we are in now
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Destroyer
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
On BBC News now - getting sick of these RM media men now, asking for the CWU to put the no strike offer back on the table as weve finished our program until January !! "Basically saying, lets get Xmas out of the way - then we'll f**k you big time".
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dvbuk55
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Re: BILL HAYES ON BBC NEWS
Royal Mail think they have it in the bag, they've never seen a backlog like this will be in the run up to Christmas, with or without their 30,000 little helpers. the only way they will shift it is to stack it in trailers or incinerate it.
They won't only be blinking, they'll be crying.
Last time we had a job to get people on the picket line, this time they are saying what time are we starting - this is a s**t or bust strike, nothing like the miners strike though, this is about representation in the workplace and the right to be treated fairly.
They won't only be blinking, they'll be crying.
Last time we had a job to get people on the picket line, this time they are saying what time are we starting - this is a s**t or bust strike, nothing like the miners strike though, this is about representation in the workplace and the right to be treated fairly.
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Destroyer
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Its the delivery offices that have the biggest effect when taking industrial action in RM - if there is no outlet & the mail centres keep pumping the work there is pretty much nothing they can do with it rather than store it. With Mail Centres they just divert the work to a scab centre during strikes, with deliveries they cant do that. The Huge backlogs were caused by delivery offices striking whilst the mail centres still pumped the work.dvbuk55 wrote:Royal Mail think they have it in the bag, they've never seen a backlog like this will be in the run up to Christmas, with or without their 30,000 little helpers. the only way they will shift it is to stack it in trailers or incinerate it.
They won't only be blinking, they'll be crying.
Last time we had a job to get people on the picket line, this time they are saying what time are we starting - this is a s**t or bust strike, nothing like the miners strike though, this is about representation in the workplace and the right to be treated fairly.
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luckyllama
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It would be good if the dispute went to ACAS this week as we dont want to loose money if we dont have too