Hi peejay14 - thanks for the postpeejay14 wrote:I will be working as usual. I am not a member of the union. I'm a simple soul.
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Why I will be crossing the picket line.
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dvbuk55
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
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HESS
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Yeah....me too , got bored...!!Sci_Dog wrote:peejay14 Do you know how hard your post was to read!? Paragraphs mate! Anyways I think it was a lot of silly stuff and wish I hadn't read it!
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Sci_Dog
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
dvbuk55 wrote:Hi peejay14 - thanks for the postpeejay14 wrote:I will be working as usual. I am not a member of the union. I'm a simple soul.I've quoted the relevant parts.
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confusednewpostie
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
Peejay
You hit the nail on the head with this....
"but some days I am finished in half the time, I feel a worry amongst the experienced posties that the nature of the job is changing and that change is inevitable"
This is one of the main problems i have identified also, posties of years gone by are SOOOOO used to working job and finish they are 100% resisting change to working normal hours they are contracted to work!
If some posties are not finished early they think their world has ended, what they seem to forget very quickly is that some days they can be home and finished before peoples 9-5 lunch breaks!
I appreciate that posties start very early, but they can also finish very early depending on mail traffic, and from chatting to other posties at other depots i have concluded that not all depots operate in the same manner, in fact some of the changes that posties are going to be on strike for are already in place in some depots, so they would essentially be picketing for practices that their office has already agreed on.
You hit the nail on the head with this....
"but some days I am finished in half the time, I feel a worry amongst the experienced posties that the nature of the job is changing and that change is inevitable"
This is one of the main problems i have identified also, posties of years gone by are SOOOOO used to working job and finish they are 100% resisting change to working normal hours they are contracted to work!
If some posties are not finished early they think their world has ended, what they seem to forget very quickly is that some days they can be home and finished before peoples 9-5 lunch breaks!
I appreciate that posties start very early, but they can also finish very early depending on mail traffic, and from chatting to other posties at other depots i have concluded that not all depots operate in the same manner, in fact some of the changes that posties are going to be on strike for are already in place in some depots, so they would essentially be picketing for practices that their office has already agreed on.
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jaja
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
a few reasons why you finish in half the time 1 only delivering half a round 2 running round 3 dumping the mail, 4 shoving the mail anywhere.... not doing the job as you should list could go on and on and on............confusednewpostie wrote:Peejay
You hit the nail on the head with this....
"but some days I am finished in half the time, I feel a worry amongst the experienced posties that the nature of the job is changing and that change is inevitable"
This is one of the main problems i have identified also, posties of years gone by are SOOOOO used to working job and finish they are 100% resisting change to working normal hours they are contracted to work!
If some posties are not finished early they think their world has ended, what they seem to forget very quickly is that some days they can be home and finished before peoples 9-5 lunch breaks!
I appreciate that posties start very early, but they can also finish very early depending on mail traffic, and from chatting to other posties at other depots i have concluded that not all depots operate in the same manner, in fact some of the changes that posties are going to be on strike for are already in place in some depots, so they would essentially be picketing for practices that their office has already agreed on.
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
We have a scab who often says, 'this is the best job i've ever had', to justify his scabbing, it's also the only unionized employment he's ever had, any coincidence.
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dvbuk55
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
Wow - such a grasp of the current situation, confusednewpostie, the so called agreed practices have been foisted on the workforce by executive action - like when you are told to do the washing up at home.confusednewpostie wrote:Peejay,You hit the nail on the head with this....so they would essentially be picketing for practices that their office has already agreed on.
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Stormproof
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
Job & finish was bought in as a sweetner to SDD so don't blame us for RM working practices.confusednewpostie wrote:Peejay
You hit the nail on the head with this....
"but some days I am finished in half the time, I feel a worry amongst the experienced posties that the nature of the job is changing and that change is inevitable"
This is one of the main problems i have identified also, posties of years gone by are SOOOOO used to working job and finish they are 100% resisting change to working normal hours they are contracted to work!
If some posties are not finished early they think their world has ended, what they seem to forget very quickly is that some days they can be home and finished before peoples 9-5 lunch breaks!
I appreciate that posties start very early, but they can also finish very early depending on mail traffic, and from chatting to other posties at other depots i have concluded that not all depots operate in the same manner, in fact some of the changes that posties are going to be on strike for are already in place in some depots, so they would essentially be picketing for practices that their office has already agreed on.
How do you know the staff agreed to the changes, they could've been bought in by EA?
I do suggest you do a bit more research
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fourkicks
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
I'm no longer in the Union as they were no help when I needed them. Where do you stand if there is a strike and you are not in the CWU?
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guswood
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
Your service counts for nothing if you cross the picket line.Ogg wrote:It would have been nice to have been proven wrong but I can assure you, you can all stop the slagging now, I DO understand where you are coming from, of course I do.
Perhaps I should've been a little more specific (to reiterate I have no need for virtual sympathy) but what would you really do if you too are staring bankruptcy in the face and enduring the constant threat of eviction? The fallout from a fiscally challenged ex-wife of course but a giant ****er for me to contend with.
I do posses a conscience, even greater considering I used to be a rep and admit I am torn between supporting the strike or getting the man off my back.
May I enquire if any of you here are or have been local union reps yourselves? Have you spent almost four years pursuing a thankless task simply to do your bit for the office? Have you had to spend entire evenings emailing correspondence, or chasing atos for colleagues, or representing colleagues during a stage meeting? Have you had to break off delivery to attend an important negotiation for an hour before returning for said delivery, for no pay, nothing at all? Are you aware a rep can claim fifty quid a year but only if he attends every single meeting? miss just the one and forget it. Would you have the patience to cope with colleagues domestic problems and mediate between them and management before you've even taken your coat off? Would you, time and time again stand up for your office (with valid results) influencing management to drop the day's absorbtion due to high mail volumes? Could you even have the time to spot colleagues struggling with a new frame and insist they receive help...this and much more besides! I admit I finally lost heart when I asked everyone not to come in early for two weeks to judge the impact of the latest set of changes yet many chose to ignore me. I did all I could and more to influence the yes vote in our office, just like I did in 07 and defy anyone to question my morals or obvious consternation at such decisions that are having a detrimental effect here. Resign from the union you say? Fair enough and if my colleagues requested it I would do so but what I sincerely hope is that people could look beyond that due to my service to the office.
For the record I made no mention of requiring sympathy but thought it might be refreshing to instigate a healthy discussion concerning the current dilemma we all face.
Please, enough insults already, they serve no purpose and you're only telling me what I already know myself.
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iceman2
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
not sure if there will be a picket line at my depa :mfo
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viking1488
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
ive just had it up to here with you and your office your either a bit thick or bull shittingiceman2 wrote:no one is strike in my dep and we have about 15 people in the union out of about 50 staff. we dont even have a union rep just an area rep .
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red72
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I've got to say that after working for royal mail for over 21 yrs nothing really suprises me , that was until i read this thread .An ex cwu rep going in , I dont buy this excuse of i cant afford it blah ,blah ,blah . Wake up for god's sake , we are talking short term pain for long term gain !!! If you are that short for cash get a job delivering pizza's on an evening to make up the shortfall , anything , just dont go in !!!
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Wessex
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
Ogg mate dont give up.Remember there is right and wrong and you are on the side of right so do the right thing and join the picket line.As an ex rep you should be able to find out if there is a local hardship strike/ fund that will help tide you over.I might be doing the same as I 'm Borassic as well.Good luck
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Why I will be crossing the picket line.
You are covered by the same employment law that protects unionised strikers.You do not have to go to work and they cannot touch you.Join the picket line.fourkicks wrote:I'm no longer in the Union as they were no help when I needed them. Where do you stand if there is a strike and you are not in the CWU?
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