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Billy Hayes: Post union boss under pressure to deliver

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Billy Hayes: Post union boss under pressure to deliver

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Billy Hayes, General Secretary of the Communication Workers Union, is facing a growing rebellion from within his own ranks over the strike that will cause misery in the run-up to Christmas.

Royal Mail workers used an internet forum to launch a series of scathing attacks on a leader some suggest is failing to get their message across.

"He is a 24-carat ----. Get him out now," wrote one postman, a union rep in southwest London. Another, who uses the sign-on 'Sticks', described Mr Hayes, who is 56, as "a useless bumbling dithering old idiot" adding for good measure: "We need rid of him as soon as!"

The protests didn't end there. He is called variously 'uninspiring', a 'stumbling oaf', or else a 'muppet'.

A postal worker, who calls himself "Axeman", wrote: "Fat Billy needs to be sidelined as soon as possible. Can he go sick?"

It will be a harsh criticism for Hayes to take. For despite the salary and friendships with some of Labour's most senior politicians, at heart he still considers himself one of them, having pounded the streets of Liverpool as a postman for 18 years before beginning his climb to influential union boss.

To his friends, Hayes is an affable, left-wing intellectual with a penchant for reading George Orwell and listening to pop music by such fashionable bands as The Ting Tings.

To his detractors, however, he is less than endearingly known as 'Fat Billy', the firebrand union boss who is leading his members into a national strike that risks destroying the very postal service he says he is trying to protect. It is not clear if the use of the word 'fat' refers to his bulk or else the size of his salary which weighs in at a hefty £97,000 a year. A postman's pay starts at £16,268.

His political baptism began at school at the hands of a sadistic teacher who would cane pupils suspected of communist sympathies. Writing recently in Socialist Review, he recalled: "It was the location of my first introduction to politics. Mr Semple, our teacher, would roar about most things to us ten year-olds, and when you had done something bad you would be whacked with a ruler on the back of your hand or cane on your backside. The one group he rallied against most were communists. Semple terrified our class with tales of communist plots and intrigue."

After school – the same one in Croxteth incidentally that would be later attended by the England footballer Wayne Rooney – he became an apprentice fitter welder and then went off to work for John West Foods. It was the early 70s and Hayes – faced with a life in front of him on the factory floor and the likelihood of the dole as industry in Liverpool crumbled around him – took a six-month break, 'doing a Jack Kerouac'. He disappeared from Merseyside and headed for Europe to find himself.

When he returned having hit the road, he instead hit the Liverpool streets, becoming a postman in 1974. The rest is the history of a mailman who found union activism and with it the lucrative path to the top. He first joined the Labour Party 33 years ago at the age of 23 – and unlike other so-called members of the union movement's 'awkward squad' – has stayed loyal to Labour and spurned hardline Trotskyites.

He met his wife Dian, inevitably, at a union meeting in Liverpool, where she was a union official at BT. For their tenth wedding anniversary last weekend, ever the activist, he treated her to a romantic night out at a Labour Party conference fringe meeting in Brighton.

Hayes moved down to London in 1992 when he was elected the union's Assistant Secretary of the Outdoor Department. He moved into a modest semi in Mitcham, now worth about £250,000, that was bought with the help of the union who lent him at least some of the money towards it at a reduced rate – a nice perk available to union officials who in theory could be voted out of office after each five-year term. Hayes had replaced Alan Johnson, now the Home Secretary, who had just been voted the union's general secretary. (Johnson subsequently quit the post when becoming an MP in 1997.)

Hayes, seen as the left wing candidate, was surprisingly voted general secretary in 2001, winning with the backing of the Communication Workers Union's 'outdoor' vote – the postal workers who had been his comrades in Liverpool and elsewhere around the country. Many had been on unofficial strike at the time of the election.

He spends his time nowadays between leafy Wimbledon, home to the union's HQ, and the family home – still in Mitcham – where he lives with his wife and two young children, aged nine and seven.

When he's at Wimbledon HQ, he's often spotted in the local HMV, buying DVD box sets, CDs or else books for himself or as gifts for staff.

"He came back the other week talking about this Ting Tings' song and saying what a great feminist song it was," said one official, adding: "He is probably one of the best read people I have ever met – almost in a geeky way."

At the negotiating table he is, according to one source, "very much a Seventies-style union leader. But he's quite a pleasant man to deal with. He doesn't bang the table in negotiations but has quite a calm style."

Hayes is certainly aware of the pressure he is under and has so far kept the smile on his face. But whether this is a postman who can actually deliver, only the next few weeks will tell. It's a high risk strategy – that like Arthur Scargill's before it – may be doomed to failure.
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Re: Billy Hayes: Post union boss under pressure to deliver

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: :Very Happy 97,000 smackaroos--for what Billy.?
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:chuckle :chuckle Axeman take a bow but who is the London rep who called Billy a 24 carat **** :chuckle
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disgruntledpostie1 wrote::chuckle :chuckle Axeman take a bow but who is the London rep who called Billy a 24 carat **** :chuckle
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10 out of 10 for that Axey and such perfect timing, make your leader look a chump and further the posties cause :crazy:

He's not great under media pressure but the press will savage the CWU now. :wave
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read the full post 'boss' the biggest chump we have is mr 10% crazier ....your hero
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote::chuckle :chuckle Axeman take a bow but who is the London rep who called Billy a 24 carat **** :chuckle
sticks http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... at#p192218" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oh yes :d'oh! I remember it now :chuckle too many stories, so little time :nervous
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Impossible to retract now but a foot in a bucket like that won't do Crozier any harm either. Might even make him look competent. No, you keep it up Agent, CWU will love you for it. See if Billy's job is up for grabs. :Applause

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Yes, the biased media won't just love a story of dissension in the union ranks leading up to one of the most unpopular national strikes for years, will they? :roll:

Good old Agent plays another blinder....
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Come on fat Billy; show 'em what you're made of... Or should that be what you're paid for. :chuckle
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Great piece of slanted journalism there..
Using this forum to gather pieces for their anti-union rag... :shock:

I watched Billy on Sky news and did not think he came over very well..my posting was made in anger and frustration after this TV appearance..
BUT the posting does not just mention Billy..It goes on to outline my unswerving support for the action we have all being taking and underlines our need to stay committed to the bitter end.

We will be fully and totally demonised by the press and we have to make the most out of any good media we can get. :cfo :cfo :cfo
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Another thing this has certainly taught me is that any criticism for whatever reason of our union or any of our own leaders on this forum is now subject to being
picked up and used by these guttersnipes to undermine our struggle. :hmmmm

Messrs Night Tonic and Tman...I'm glad you are both enjoying it so much...

It wouldn't surprise me if you had actually led those cut and paste journos to this forum to gather their material !
:evil/mad :evil/mad
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Messrs Night Tonic and Tman...I'm glad you are both enjoying it so much...

Enjoying what?
It wouldn't surprise me if you had actually led those cut and paste journos to this forum to gather their material !
:evil/mad :evil/mad
No, it probably wouldn't surprise you, but then you're obviously of the mind-set that anyone who "dares" to say anything against the flock's group-speak must be capable of any underhand trick.

Rather pathetic, really. The logic of the witch-burners and lynch mobs, although "logic" isn't much in evidence here.

If you had a brain or even a memory you'd know the journos have been "here" before, and are unlikely to stay away now there's some juicy propaganda to be written.

{Incidentally I neither work in a DO or even Dorking, if that's any consolation to you.}
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In reply to your assumption re: my mind set..

I am perfectly aware that not everyone on this forum will be in support of the action taken by the CWU in this dispute..and i am perfectly capable of accepting that point
of view on this forum..

I am also aware that journos come here and will stay coming here..I admit to being naive in that my posting was used. I hadn't expected it. :d'oh!

I have read many of your contributions to this forum and certainly do get the impression that any of this sort of thing is recieved by your good self with great relish !! :roll:
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I am perfectly aware that not everyone on this forum will be in support of the action taken by the CWU in this dispute..and i am perfectly capable of accepting that point
of view on this forum..
You'll have to show me where I've said I didn't support it then...

I have read many of your contributions to this forum and certainly do get the impression that any of this sort of thing is recieved by your good self with great relish !! :roll:
"What "sort of thing" are you referring to?