Why did you vote 'no' for strike action?

[OnAFlyer]

Some offices aren't really affected by the changes yet and i'd guess quite a few in those offices voted 'no' - especially with RM painting the strikes as a London issue.

I'm not a CWU member but will be striking if they are called. However this really is the CWU's last chance, they HAVE to get the deal right this time - no excuses. If they f*ck this one up I will never support CWU IA again.

[london sub]

Get it right they better do! If its a raw deal, i for one will cancel my subscription, as much as i don't want to...lets hope it doesn't come to that.

[Carnoustie]

just be bloody happy it's a yes vote. if it had of come back no we would well and trully be screwed. i believe that if we don't stand firm this time round we'll all be looking for another job within 12 month's.

I am happy it was a yes vote. However it was democratic vote and members were entitled to vote how they pleased. I'm just curious why 19,000 members voted no. Before I continue I did vote yes, I will strike and I would never ever cross a picket line. However how will you feel when members of the Union don't support the majority? When members of the Union walk past your picket line into work? Will you be happy then it was a yes vote? Cause I sure as hell won't! I'll feel like a prat! I'll be losing money supporting the cause and the majority whilst members of the very same Union will walk right past me with their head held high and into work! But yes, I'm happy the majority voted yes.

Royal Mail claim there are 20,000 postal workers who are not members of the union. Is this true ? That figure is a shock to me. It would mean that almost 1-in-7 people are NOT union members. Presumably, they will cross the picket line to go in to work on the strike days ?

[rebel]

What is a "London Issue" will hit the rest of the country soon. Impossible walks - even for the most enthusiastic. Massive job cuts - told they would be transferred - but where? When every other office is slashing its staff in the same proportion. I'm young and fit and find it hard enough at the moment. Certainly don't finish much before my time. How can the older guys be expected to cope with the proposed Pegasus walks? There seems to be an out-dated perception that all posties finish between 10 and 11 am and start their second job. Heard these tales myself but not been in the job long enough to have ever seen this happen in reality. Maybe in the distant past it happened - but certainly not now.

[neilcfc]

I have supported every strike in my 20 years in royal mail, but i am undecided this time as its galling standing on a picket line when not only are colleagues working but also getting paid overtime, and on the last strike i feel the union let us down big time when the agreement was a load of rubbish, how they decided to sign up for it was amazing, can they now be trusted to back the strikes or fold like before? Also some people in our office rush round and go home 2-2half hours early so its difficult to argue with the manager when he says we can make cuts, some people are just thick.

[Suffolkpostie]

I'm afraid i work in a town delivery office where the majority voted NO in 2007 and i suspect it will be very much the same this time. I voted yes in 2007 and again this time round, i am just about fed up with the 'i can't afford it' arguement, no one can, i certainly can't, i have 4 young lads and am the only provider to our family, but if you don't take the chance to stand up for what you truly believe in then how can you look yourself in the mirror and see anything else but weakness.

I've tried telling them that if it wasn't for the sacrafices people made in 2007 then they would all be around £1000 a year worse off, and they all know that this is just the start of 'modernisation' and that things are going to get a lot worse a lot quicker unless we make a stand now!

I tend to find that the biggest whingers in the office, who are forever complaining how hard the job is now, are the ones that will march into work during strikes, and be the first looking for overtime when they are over!

[crooner1981]

I'll hold my hand up here and admit I voted no, partly because of money and the usual excuses and it being "a London problem".
But let me make one thing clear I will not scab.

[Funked!]

I'll hold my hand up here and admit I voted no, partly because of money and the usual excuses and it being "a London problem".
But let me make one thing clear I will not scab.

You must understand RM want more money from you in the long run......don't you ?

[russ0r]

Royal Mail claim there are 20,000 postal workers who are not members of the union. Is this true ? That figure is a shock to me. It would mean that almost 1-in-7 people are NOT union members. Presumably, they will cross the picket line to go in to work on the strike days ?

I work as an 'area reserve' between 8 or 9 different SPDOs. Most of the offices I've been to have 9-10 posties working out of them, generally no more than 2 or 3 of them are union members. Some of them don't have any union members at all.

Have to confess I'm not in the union either. I've only been a postie coming up a year in November, I've never been introduced the union rep, never even been approached about joining. Working in SPDOs you very rarely see a manager or a union rep in your office; everything is done out of a central DO in the nearest big city.
I suspect SPDOs are where the majority of the non-union posties are from.

[gus]

crooner read counselling topic easy to see why yes was the only answer.

[darth]

Royal Mail claim there are 20,000 postal workers who are not members of the union. Is this true ? That figure is a shock to me. It would mean that almost 1-in-7 people are NOT union members. Presumably, they will cross the picket line to go in to work on the strike days ?

I work as an 'area reserve' between 8 or 9 different SPDOs. Most of the offices I've been to have 9-10 posties working out of them, generally no more than 2 or 3 of them are union members. Some of them don't have any union members at all.

Have to confess I'm not in the union either. I've only been a postie coming up a year in November, I've never been introduced the union rep, never even been approached about joining. Working in SPDOs you very rarely see a manager or a union rep in your office; everything is done out of a central DO in the nearest big city.
I suspect SPDOs are where the majority of the non-union posties are from.

i suspect that when royal mail introduce super delivery offices that the smaller offices will be absorbed but by then it will be too late to protest.we have allready had our dom mention that postcodes will not be a barrier as sequencing will over rule this.best ask your superiors some questions and join the union.

[Exrep]

As long as we dont have strike breakers and the 19,000 that voted no do not cross the picket lines formed well each to there own .

But sadly the 19,000 should of realised and under stood the bigger picture.

What is really starting to bug me is the saying "The London problem" how on earth is this just the london problem.

It is not just our london brothers that have been out on strike there are many other offices across the country that have done so ,has everyone forgotten this fact . Why is this being classed as the london problem im confused. Im in the north west of england we have had a pegasus revision in our office we have lost walks/duties we have been asked to work for nothink and we went out for a solid 4 days but still im hearing the phrase can any one explain it to me .

Pegasus is floored R/M know this but do you honestly think they are going to come out and say so not in a million years. Dont forget pegasus is a canadian software used to plot there walks, what R/M fail to see is that we are one of only a few countries that still walk up footpaths to the the front door in F**KING canada they dont and this is why the software is floored.

One other thing that bugs me is that people think when we are out on strike ,that its a license for an extra day off or lie in i can understand why some are like this, but now is the time for everyone to join the picket lines and show R/M and the G/P a show of solidarity .Once again another example of the me me attitude we have in R/M and this has gotten us in this mess we find ourselves in today.

And before you ask yes i was a big yes voter but i did vote no in the 2007 as it was obvious what was coming and i feel shafted for the sake of a measely £400 was it really worth it chaps i think not.

[gus]

spot on monkeyboy only thing wrong was they did nick name it the LONDON agreement when they should have called it
f--king garbage also voted no.

[crooner1981]

Part of the problem in our office is that they started pegasus and scrapped it as they obviously counldnt scrap walks/jobs. And our summer lapsing didnt happen either as our dom (for a dom hes ok) made savings elsewhere so alot at our office beleive its as sh*t as its going to get rightly or wrongly and including me to a point. I appreciate im going to get abused for what ive just said but would still like to point out I wont cross a picket line.

[infidel]

crooner think your mixed up this is not a CMA love line join unite gets you closer to the DOM XXX CCC LOVAA.