prowler wrote:Plenty people don't have a job at the moment with many more to follow. I'd rather have a job than get too upset about changed hours - there not unsocial anyway. Even the CWU recognise that change is coming - better like it or lump it.
Or get another job.
I'll tell you something for nothing - I for one, at this upcoming time of year wouldn't like the thought of still being out, delivering mail when it starts going dark at 3pm. It was bad enough when I started out at 6:45am-7am sometimes; in the dark and you got the odd undesirable THEN but I shudder to think who will be walking the streets at THAT time of the evening
It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes, I remember these days as well. Unfortunately the world moves on, but doesn't get any better.
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes, I remember these days as well. Unfortunately the world moves on, but doesn't get any better.
Can you question the change due to childcare issues i.e.picking kids up from school.?
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes remember it very well, esp the McDonalds bit Mind you never worked to 10 am sat I was home by 9am
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes, I remember these days as well. Unfortunately the world moves on, but doesn't get any better.
Can you question the change due to childcare issues i.e.picking kids up from school.?
This would affect me and no doubt many others badly,isn't there the flexi working/family friendly thing going about in RM.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes, I remember these days as well. Unfortunately the world moves on, but doesn't get any better.
Can you question the change due to childcare issues i.e.picking kids up from school.?
I asked this at an WTL ages ago as it will affect me and the response was "you will have to make other arangements" but the law recently changed concerning child care cover so not sure now, but i doubt it.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes remember it very well, esp the McDonalds bit Mind you never worked to 10 am sat I was home by 9am
Well I may have been overdoing the 10 ish bit - if I wasn't home by 9.30 it was a bad day
Hey 99p for a cheeseburger and a nice glass of fresh orange juice - just the thing after delivering 2 bags of mail - yep just 2 - fair walk though.
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes, I remember these days as well. Unfortunately the world moves on, but doesn't get any better.
Can you question the change due to childcare issues i.e.picking kids up from school.?
This would affect me and no doubt many others badly,isn't there the flexi working/family friendly thing going about in RM.
The trouble is that it is just all flannel.They have to say they have family friendly policies but I have seen others try to get school hours etc. only to be shot down with the 'does not fit into the business model'.
A move to 3 or even 4 will affect many thousands judging by the perecentage in my office who pick up their kids as their partner is at work.
:mfo
I dont think RM really give a toss about family life. Youll either prob get offered to move to another office where the times may suit better or live with it. Some lads at our office just cut off to pick their kids up. What else can you do?
dvbuk55 wrote:It was normal for us to be out on delivery in the dark before 0645, though you couldn't knock on a door prior to 0645 - I never felt threatened though - that's not the normal time for low lifes to be knocking about. I had completed my first delivery before 8.30 and was in McDonalds for breakfast, casual stroll back to the office by 9 followed by a 40 minute break, sorting and out on the bike and second delivery of due mail i.e. 1st class and due 2nd and home by 11 ish or so. Life was good, 5 am starts, 6 days a week, Saturdays completed by 10 ish 1 delivery only and a pleasure to go to work, businesses had their mail before 8, the customers were happy to have their mail before they went to work - what a sad state of affairs we have come to.
Yes remember it very well, esp the McDonalds bit Mind you never worked to 10 am sat I was home by 9am
Well I may have been overdoing the 10 ish bit - if I wasn't home by 9.30 it was a bad day
Hey 99p for a cheeseburger and a nice glass of fresh orange juice - just the thing after delivering 2 bags of mail - yep just 2 - fair walk though.
Yes it all comes flooding back i was on a firms delivery at the start of 2000 and used to be finished on a sat waiting outside Maccy Dee's to open at 8am for my Big brek and a coffee Look at us now working our nuts off getting home a 2pm knackerd
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
dejavu wrote:I dont think RM really give a toss about family life. Youll either prob get offered to move to another office where the times may suit better or live with it. Some lads at our office just cut off to pick their kids up. What else can you do?
If i cut from my delivery to pick the kids up from school it would mean about a 30 mile round trip
I doubt i could fit the monkies in the van either (just kidding about the van)
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
krussel wrote:This has been a strong rumor in our office all year. I believe the later start is to help when the walk sequencing machines become active. However they keep putting off the time when these are supposed to come on-line so its anyone's guess. But yes looking ahead it looks as if we are heading to 7am starts.
Ps. raising hunting partners eh
birds of prey mate
Can't your feathered friends likewise get used to a correspondingly later start ?
Flexibility is for everyone.
I was home by 9am 
but the law recently changed concerning child care cover so not sure now, but i doubt it. 
i was on a firms delivery at the start of 2000 and used to be finished on a sat waiting outside Maccy Dee's to open at 8am for my Big brek and a coffee 
Look at us now working our nuts off getting home a 2pm knackerd 
eh 