Technology isn't all it's cracked up to be, not if the human cost is not taken into consideration,
Great. But how does mankind get by? I mean, what does mankind do in order to feed itself, provide shelter for itself, when mankind no longer has to work? Will mankind have to take what he wants, when once he earned what he wanted?Tman wrote:Technology isn't all it's cracked up to be, not if the human cost is not taken into consideration,
What "human cost"? What about the "human benefit" technology has given us?
Only the so-called communist countries believed in unnecessary job creation; great if you want to dig a cutting for a railway using only hand tools, but not a lot of use to a 21st century high-tech society.
Probably not, but inventions etc can't be uninvented, and likewise technical progress can't be halted.Big Daz wrote:The big rise in time saving technology in the worklace is not good for a rising population who will need jobs.
Big Daz wrote:DirtyHarry wrote: I'm voting Green from now on.
But technical progress, just for the sake of progressing, is not really progress at all. Royal Mail is and probably always will, as with other large organisations, look for the best outcome and not plan for the worst.Tman wrote:Probably not, but inventions etc can't be uninvented, and likewise technical progress can't be halted.Big Daz wrote:The big rise in time saving technology in the worklace is not good for a rising population who will need jobs.
What a strange thing to say. Many inventors or discoverers never realised the potential in what they'd made/discovered, and sometimes it took others and many years to make full use, so what your saying is that the human race may as well stop any further research etc done "just for the sake of it"? But how would anyone know the long-term benefits?But technical progress, just for the sake of progressing, is not really progress at all.
Funnily enough, there's a whole big wide world out there outside the UK and it's government, and they too, are progressing in the technical sense. To point to someone's cock-up (like this NHS system) as a reason or example of why "we" shouldn't progress, is absurd.Government is too short sighted to look into the long term implications and benefits of technological progress and it therefore appears surprised when things don't quite the way they were expecting. Just look at the NHS computer system.
No and with a modicum of respect for others views you would know that.Tman wrote:What a strange thing to say. Many inventors or discoverers never realised the potential in what they'd made/discovered, and sometimes it took others and many years to make full use, so what your saying is that the human race may as well stop any further research etc done "just for the sake of it"? But how would anyone know the long-term benefits?But technical progress, just for the sake of progressing, is not really progress at all.
Government is too short sighted to look into the long term implications and benefits of technological progress and it therefore appears surprised when things don't quite the way they were expecting. Just look at the NHS computer system.
Yes there is but I am not a meglomaniac - I can only affect - albiet in a very small way - what happens in my own corner of the world, other people sticking thier noses in where its not wanted got us into some of the problems we are in now. Pointing out the NHS system was not an argument against progression but an argument against not fully understanding the problems and consequences of that progression. But just as you have accused me, perhaps you dismiss my views because of who I am - not because they hold no validity.Tman wrote:Funnily enough, there's a whole big wide world out there outside the UK and it's government, and they too, are progressing in the technical sense. To point to someone's cock-up (like this NHS system) as a reason or example of why "we" shouldn't progress, is absurd.
You send em to me BD and I'll do the business - well I'll do my bestBig Daz wrote:Unsustainable population levels need to brought under control,
The UK tax credit and child benefit system has becoema joke!!!
Want a extra child cant afford it? Dont worry Gordon Clown will give you enough extra tax credit and child benefit to cover the cost!!!!
So open your legs boys and girls get breeding and get rich quick!!!!!
No and with a modicum of respect for others views you would know that.
Really? Volta saw his "animal electricity" as little more than a party trick, Baird thought his TV of little commercial use, and Gates thought that no-one would ever need more that 512K. What did they know, eh?There is no point in inventing things just for the sake of inventing them that is pointless and unproductive. To invent something you must first know what you want it to do, and therefore if you know the benefits its only responsible to make yourself aware of possible and predictable pitfalls and drawbacks .
I dismissed it as beside the point and therefore no example of the point you made. Just because one system doesn't work for whatever reason, are we then to dismiss all similar systems as pointless and/or worthless?Yes there is but I am not a meglomaniac - I can only affect - albiet in a very small way - what happens in my own corner of the world, other people sticking thier noses in where its not wanted got us into some of the problems we are in now. Pointing out the NHS system was not an argument against progression but an argument against not fully understanding the problems and consequences of that progression. But just as you have accused me, perhaps you dismiss my views because of who I am - not because they hold no validity.
No, I understood just fine. However, as I didn't call your opinion "absurd", just the the point you were making, perhaps it's you who haven't fully understood?Absolutley no point in continuining a debate when somone calls anothers opinions absurd more especially when they have not fully understood the opposing position.
Unless you want to feel "insulted" in some way, that is... I'm sorry you feel that way. Oh well...........TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Sorry as you never ever move on a debate or change your views there is no point in debating with you - a debate is exchange of views - you dismissing mine is not a debate.
