PERFORMING OVERTIME DURING STRIKE ACTION

[postghost]

The basic pricipal is still the same as it ever was - by joining a union ( or other organisation ) you agree to abide by its T&C / principals .

My point is that members already DONT abide by them, yet the CWU has never issued ltb's regarding this.

[lover]

Oh,and for the record,you know that email/LTB HQ send out regarding when we strike,well they aint gonna send any more out now,you work it out.

TO: THE BRANCH SECRETARY

Dear Colleague,

Official Industrial Action : Date to be added
As a consequence of official Industrial Action taking place during the above period in a number of offices, Royal Mail have advised us that in order to restore a full service to its customers it may be necessary to divert work to other offices to clear backlogs caused by the Industrial Action.
It is important that picketing only takes place at or near the workplace where members have been balloted and not at any other office or location which may be being used during the period of Industrial Action.
Furthermore, any refusal by members who are not involved in the balloted Industrial Action to work as directed is, in fact, unlawful Industrial Action.
Branches are reminded that only properly balloted Industrial Action is legal and any refusal to co-operate with management over these changes may be deemed unofficial Industrial Action and therefore illegal. This, of course, applies to use of supplementary staff and levels of overtime to clear any backlogs. All such measures will be subject to normal consultative arrangements.
If any difficulties are incurred then Branches should contact the Operational Assistant Secretary.
Yours sincerely,

BILLY HAYES DAVE WARD
GENERAL SECRETARY DEPUTY GENERAL SECRETARY (P)

you guys try reading this again......

[Geezer]

umm who me....id rather do without thankyou very much geeser.im a part time postie who is bullied and harressed into finishing my round.or i go throught yet another round of prep tests with no results given.with bogus conduct codes against me.dragged out for 3 months..
belive me i dont want the fooking overtime i wanna piss of home where im perfectly comfortable on the part time wages cos i dont spend money i dont have.
i would also vote happiley to strike for no other reason than to have a day off.but this week ive taken the money with gusto to hit them where it really hurts...the balance sheet...i dont need to preach to people to do as i say like you seem to [/quote]


Lover

I'm also PT 30hrs, I do a rural Del


I Have a mortgage and 3 kids

And i will never do overtime that hurts those who have gone on strike in the hope of us all getting a better deal (whether we get one or not ) out of RM

I'm not preaching just setting out my point of view, just like you are.

Like i said

SELFISH just be honest

[lover]

OK OK im selfish...your story made me cry..i feel for you i really do..

so the guys in bristol who arnt striking just refusing overtime.and therfore forcing us all down stream to wait till the missort run for our walk sort.they are the good boys.and i must not complete my round because they are refusing the overtime for my benifit...

ive got it thanks geeser.

when im out tommorrow..saturday...right up too my time...ill cut the fook off in solidarity....


oh fook i was going to do that anyway
i told the managment today.

as for your approch of swings and roundabouts as my dim calls it.i was going to do that next week..you beat me to it.

one last thought...i am not stupid enough to think anyone is strikeing for my sake.that would fly against every human trait .
they are doing it for themselves plan and simple.if you think there is a nobler cause ......well you can guess the rest

[Geezer]

OK OK im selfish...your story made me cry..i feel for you i really do..

so the guys in bristol who arnt striking just refusing overtime.and therfore forcing us all down stream to wait till the missort run for our walk sort.they are the good boys.and i must not complete my round because they are refusing the overtime for my benifit...

ive got it thanks geeser.

when im out tommorrow..saturday...right up too my time...ill cut the fook off in solidarity....


oh fook i was going to do that anyway
i told the managment today.

Lover

I'm not telling you to do anything, i think it's up to everyone to do what they feel is right for them, but in so doing be honest and not make up lame excuses that's all i was trying to put across.
I have nothing against you and as a PT myself i know the crap you probably have to put up with.
So on ending this message i will wish you luck and hope all goes well for you as my intention was not to offend.
we are all in this together for better or worse

[pickaname]

"Furthermore, any refusal by members who are not involved in the balloted Industrial Action to work as directed is, in fact, unlawful Industrial Action."

Im sure if the union is seen to support Unofficial action then by law it can have its assets frozen and perhaps other things. This would essentially mean no union. While handling blacklisted mail is of course morally wrong, its not the union at fault here; its the Labour government refusing to remove the anit-union legislation.

[woofwoof]

At the end of the day we all as postmen & postwomen are the union we are royal mail and we shouldnt be shitting on the postal workers what are on strike and no im not on strike and no im not doing overtime in the mail centre that is taking diverted mail as i have principles

[POSTMAN]

1st of all regarding the LTB i put up and some of you are jumping on,think for a minute the legal reason as to why it was sent out in the 1st place,if you have no idea why it was sent PM me and i'll tell you why.

2nd there aint gonna be anymore of those LTB's as far as i'm aware.

3rd one man/woman strikes and loses money,one man/woman picks up their work on overtime and makes money,in you heart or your head,think about it ffs!

[Edward Hunter]

You my friend have a very clouded vision of what is actually happening in some offices, so maybe best if you dont comment without seeing the bigger picture.[/quote]

And you are away with the fairies in la la land. By all means handle the diverted mail during your duty time (as legally you have to). but what moral code have you got in your peanut brain to think it acceptable to do OT.

[shelanda]

3rd one man/woman strikes and loses money,one man/woman picks up their work on overtime and makes money,in you heart or your head,think about it ffs!

It beggars belief that this needs spelling out, in my office the ones that shout the loudest about the way the job is going are going to be the ones sorting that mail, they want it all better conditions,pick up any overtime caused by the ones trying to achieve this and also they are the ones crossing that picket line, it (they) really makes me sick!!!!

[thehappyones]

So POSTMAN would you take the o/t ............i for one will not perform overtime whilst fellow members are losing money trying to get a better deal for us ALL ,Also if these people that do the o/t and directly benefitting from their fellow brothers and sisters ,in my eyes ,are nothing short of strike breakers themselves ...what is the point of being part of a union if youre not willing to to take the rough with the smooth REMEMBER we are the UNION not just billy hayes or dave ward we are the voice be PRO-ACTIVE you dont need to be a rep to take part ,dont just leave it up the rep and get stuck in to them when it goes tits up we all have a part to play ,we non-reps can do things reps cant and vice-versa ,if you think for one minute that its ok to benefit from your fellow bros and sis then go ahead because i firmly believe that these people always get whats coming to them,WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND,we all must be singing from the same hymn sheet otherwise we will flounder and eventually we will get washed up on the shore and then the gulls and maggots will pick away at our lifeless bodie So for the sake of our jobs and the future of the next generation of workers ,because this is not just afight for postal workers this is a fight for ALL workers up and down the country,this looming strike has the potenial to be just as big and equally as nasty as the miners or even timex so ,SO LADS and LASSIES ......WE ALL KNOW BY READING THIS FORUM DAY IN AND DAY OUT THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN TALK THE TALK ....BUT CAN YOU WALK THE WALK...........THIS IS THE TIME TO STAND UP ..AND DO THE RIGHT THING ...FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN ...WE MUST ALL SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER , WE MUST ALL HAVE THE SAME VALUES OTHERWISE WHAT IS THE POINT IN BEING PART OF THIS UNION

SO LETS PREPARE FOR BATTLE
AS YOU KNOW ,BY NOW ,THE NEGOTAIONS WILL BE FRUITLESS
AS THEY NORMALLY ARE ,

SO ..................AGAIN, I SAY,........................ARE YOU READY

[POSTMAN]

So POSTMAN would you take the o/t ............

Of cource not.

[postghost]

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[thehappyones]

So GHOST by the contents of your post youre a TAKER and not a GIVER .......can just imagine christmas in your house

[POSTMAN]

Postghost is in a DO and there are many posties that perform docket during/after a strike.
Pressure,rest days,what post is saying i think is that he does that,like many others do.