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Walk Sequencing Disaster

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post2012
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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DirtyHarry wrote:Brilliant!
So this is what "modernisation" is all about, going backwards. :crazy:
Obviously there are going to be teething problems when this is first introduced. Sorting by hand is a pointless waste of time. These machines should have been introduced years ago.
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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post2012 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Brilliant!
So this is what "modernisation" is all about, going backwards. :crazy:
Obviously there are going to be teething problems when this is first introduced. Sorting by hand is a pointless waste of time. These machines should have been introduced years ago.
And when Walk Sequencing hits what will walking posties be doing with it - manually sorting it into the RM2000 frame :left: - Modernisation :roll: . I think WSM might work if they were 100% reliable and accurate and they had a system in place to add flats and packets into them in a Table Top way (I think that's how the Dutch do it), rather than just adding an extra step , albeit quicker one, into the processing chain.
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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Tman wrote:
Seriously though...you have no idea. I have accurate reports from people who work there - yes managers too! You have? Nothing but your opinions...

Game over.
Unless PO's LSMs run in some sort of parallel universe, or POMC is somehow unique in it's operation, then it's rather more than just opinion.
Equally your "accurate reports" sound anything but, so hardly -
"Game over".
Apparently this is the first week of PO's stab at this, so it'll take a while to get right.
{Unless they give up and wait for the Solystic machines, that is}
They have been using walksorting software up the road from pompey for 2years plus on lsm's no probs,so tman knows what he's talking about,and they have css working there as well.From what you have posted its obvious you have little or no understanding of the mech.The tag and route codes on the mail are put there by IMPS or MTT or CBC direct from the customer,so if there is a heavy reject/missort rate its either because the inward sort plans arent right,human error or just the fact that its a new concept to most lsm operators at PO and is bedding in!Game back on!(cant wait for a reply) :wave :cuppa
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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I dont claim to have any knowledge of mech. Never have done. But i do claim to have knowledge of how walk sequencing has disrupted deliveries and cost RM loads of money in Portsmouth.

Whether its the machines or humans that are the problem is irrelevant. The fact remains that since they were introduced things have gone awry. You can argue, predict and assume all you want, but at the end of the day the reality on the ground is that it isnt working. Thats is why i heard reports the trials ended yesterday. Worse than the worst case scenario were the words used i do believe.

You can keep this thread going if you like. The answer will always be the same. :whistle
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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post2012 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Brilliant!
So this is what "modernisation" is all about, going backwards. :crazy:
Obviously there are going to be teething problems when this is first introduced. Sorting by hand is a pointless waste of time. These machines should have been introduced years ago.
Not in my book, sunshine. Sorting by hand means people in work, much more important than machinery introduced to drive down costs.
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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DirtyHarry wrote:
post2012 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Brilliant!
So this is what "modernisation" is all about, going backwards. :crazy:
Obviously there are going to be teething problems when this is first introduced. Sorting by hand is a pointless waste of time. These machines should have been introduced years ago.
Not in my book, sunshine. Sorting by hand means people in work, much more important than machinery introduced to drive down costs.
well said Dirty Harry, how you s boys and girls holding out down there? :Very Happy
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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pickaname wrote:I dont claim to have any knowledge of mech. Never have done. But i do claim to have knowledge of how walk sequencing has disrupted deliveries and cost RM loads of money in Portsmouth.

Whether its the machines or humans that are the problem is irrelevant. The fact remains that since they were introduced things have gone awry. You can argue, predict and assume all you want, but at the end of the day the reality on the ground is that it isnt working. Thats is why i heard reports the trials ended yesterday. Worse than the worst case scenario were the words used i do believe.

You can keep this thread going if you like. The answer will always be the same. :whistle
As i said at the beginning of my thread this stuff has been working in my MC for over 2 years without any problems,therefore it works,simple really,it makes no odds to me if it works at PO or not,just telling you its not the equipment,as that is used elsewhere ok. :neutral:
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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hubbahubba wrote:
pickaname wrote:I dont claim to have any knowledge of mech. Never have done. But i do claim to have knowledge of how walk sequencing has disrupted deliveries and cost RM loads of money in Portsmouth.

Whether its the machines or humans that are the problem is irrelevant. The fact remains that since they were introduced things have gone awry. You can argue, predict and assume all you want, but at the end of the day the reality on the ground is that it isnt working. Thats is why i heard reports the trials ended yesterday. Worse than the worst case scenario were the words used i do believe.

You can keep this thread going if you like. The answer will always be the same. :whistle
As i said at the beginning of my thread this stuff has been working in my MC for over 2 years without any problems,therefore it works,simple really,it makes no odds to me if it works at PO or not,just telling you its not the equipment,as that is used elsewhere ok. :neutral:
Typical
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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Typical
What sort of answer is that? :hmmmm
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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pickaname,that is a no no,if you can't at least debate properly regardless of the issue then please move on.
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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Tman wrote:
Typical
What sort of answer is that? :hmmmm
Brief :cuppa
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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BELIAL wrote:
Tman wrote:
Typical
What sort of answer is that? :hmmmm
Brief :cuppa
lmao :left:
same as it ever was...
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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POSTMAN wrote:pickaname,that is a no no,if you can't at least debate properly regardless of the issue then please move on.
RULES wrote:If someone has a different position to you please respect their right to have differing views, and enjoy yourself when picking holes in their position in a constructive way. We would much rather have a long winded well thought out argument, picking out weak points in someone's position, than have a thread full of 1 line insults.
Scummer is what people from Portsmouth call people from Southampton. It was meant in jest and im positive the bloke from scu...err...Southampton knows that only too well. Sorry, wont happen again...
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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pickaname"]I dont claim to have any knowledge of mech. Never have done.


Uh :whistle huh
Whether its the machines or humans that are the problem is irrelevant.
But you said-
THESE MACHINES DO NOT WORK. I REPEAT - THESE MACHINES DO NOT WORK
Then went on say about ground floor flats and 1s and ls and how the machine couldn't differentiate.

That doesn't say it's irrelevant, that's you saying it's a machine fault.

So, what's the latest from the canteen tech experts? Has the trial started again yet?
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Re: Walk Sequencing Disaster

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itllnottouchyou wrote: well said Dirty Harry, how you s boys and girls holding out down there? :Very Happy
The majority of us are as strong as we ever were, there's a few flakey people but they're holding their nerve, and as for the serial scabbers, firing squad's the only cure for 'em! :Very Happy
Considering Royal Mail's "posties are overpaid and underworked" mantra, we really don't have any alternative but to keep striking. :cuppa