I Don't Support Postal Strike - Postman

[lover]

tbt
not what you say but how you say it.[/quote]

please m8 not this old chestnut

a debate should be where you try to changed the others perception though reasoning.not infantile jibes.

can you go back over all your posts and read how many times youve said this in an attempt to stifle debate.

tman if what used to take one bag now takes two(forget weight most of us posties couldnt give a four x.we stuff the bag to bursting)
then clearly the amont of mail addressed and unaddressed cant be less.its nothing to do with packets either cos most of us stuff them in our panniers.

mail "volumes "are a smoke screen used by the companies to prove they need to make cuts.just like many governments in the past before, they change the measuring stick this way and that to prove anything.long and the short of it is they made a profit, the best in many years and thats after pumping millions extra into the pension fund,paying lots of solictors fees and compensation.

but thats just my opinion m8 take it or leave it

[rockytony67]

That IS debate - rather then the usual 'I agree with him' blah blah...

Look out, in jumps the one line response king ..... now the debate will get interesting .....

Now come on Pinky, you can't expect a Man/Women? who doesn't know there arse from there elbow or how long they've worked in RM or if there in the pension scheme or not (although I believe he has finally left the union ) to get involved in an informed debate

[lover]

That IS debate - rather then the usual 'I agree with him' blah blah...

Look out, in jumps the one line response king ..... now the debate will get interesting .....

Now come on Pinky, you can't expect a Man/Women? who doesn't know there arse from there elbow or how long they've worked in RM or if there in the pension scheme or not (although I believe he has finally left the union ) to get involved in an informed debate

i just reported this ....
its nothing but blatant bullying and harrasment of another member.lets be better than the managers shall we

[Night Tonic]

Must be a breeze blowing between someones ears, if not several. Bag weight equals volume? And this is supposed to be an informed source of information? Good grief....

[rockytony67]

Must be a breeze blowing between someones ears, if not several. Bag weight equals volume? And this is supposed to be an informed source of information? Good grief....

Whats your informed view of the RM pension fund? are you in it today or are you out?

[Ernie Shoe]

Letters Down.
Flats and packets up.

So yes volume may well be down!

[concerned]

Hello
As an owner of my own business and therefore a manager - who knows nothing about the daily practice within RM i would like to say something after looking over your comments.
If i had X amount of stuff coming every day that my employees had to take out - and they could only take out a certain weight per time for H&S reasons....and if the amount of stuff started reducing i would probably need to reduce my workforce somewhat. However, if - so i could cover the same areas and therefore the same amount of customers, it would be obvious to me that the remaining people who worked for me were working harder. As they still are only meant to take a certain weight limit but were (as a result of reducing staff) having to cover a larger area. And i would value my employees very much to be honest with you. Maybe its time that managers from big businesses came to learn a bit from us smaller businesses. And maybe even try the work your employees have to do.
I adore my staff, and i tell you this. Will all the financial uncertainty i have had this year - i could not have done it without them. And when i can, i reward them. And even if i dont, they know they are appreicated.

[kay_thebigbird]

Hello
As an owner of my own business and therefore a manager - who knows nothing about the daily practice within RM i would like to say something after looking over your comments.
If i had X amount of stuff coming every day that my employees had to take out - and they could only take out a certain weight per time for H&S reasons....and if the amount of stuff started reducing i would probably need to reduce my workforce somewhat. However, if - so i could cover the same areas and therefore the same amount of customers, it would be obvious to me that the remaining people who worked for me were working harder. As they still are only meant to take a certain weight limit but were (as a result of reducing staff) having to cover a larger area. And i would value my employees very much to be honest with you. Maybe its time that managers from big businesses came to learn a bit from us smaller businesses. And maybe even try the work your employees have to do.
I adore my staff, and i tell you this. Will all the financial uncertainty i have had this year - i could not have done it without them. And when i can, i reward them. And even if i dont, they know they are appreicated.

You ADORE your staff that's why you are not or never could be a Royal Mail manager, most probably because you are a HUMAN BEING god that's rare in management.

[concerned]

its not rare really....thing is when you work somewhere and work your way up its different. like when you start something working for yourself then able to have people to work for/with you...... this is how it should be
people that go to college and then uni etc JUST to be a manager - have no soul. They are made up to just think about targets and figures etc - its like thats the only thing that makes them feel good. Meeting a target makes them feel worth something, and they think it makes people like & respect them. Bit like the school bully. To be honest, and company that employes managers and or trainee managers are silly. They should at least be made to work at the forefront for a year so they understand the work involved and the chain....
But as i said, they need to massage their egos and have no soul. Most that is, not all

[kay_thebigbird]

its not rare really....thing is when you work somewhere and work your way up its different. like when you start something working for yourself then able to have people to work for/with you...... this is how it should be
people that go to college and then uni etc JUST to be a manager - have no soul. They are made up to just think about targets and figures etc - its like thats the only thing that makes them feel good. Meeting a target makes them feel worth something, and they think it makes people like & respect them. Bit like the school bully. To be honest, and company that employes managers and or trainee managers are silly. They should at least be made to work at the forefront for a year so they understand the work involved and the chain....
But as i said, they need to massage their egos and have no soul. Most that is, not all

Well TBH some of the worst managers that me & my workmates have worked with are ex posties that we have worked with for years but that are now managers,I don't know what it is , I think it's a power thing it goe's straight to there heads, bit like HITLER but on a smaller scale.End of the day life is to short to be bothered by any of this crap least we got the WORLD CUP coming up.

[POSTMAN]

I love theses volume threads

Anyway,no bullying as far as i can see,both sides give as good as they get,although guys,come on ffs,how many more times are we gonna chat bout this.

[dvbuk55]

I love theses volume threads

Anyway,no bullying as far as i can see,both sides give as good as they get,although guys,come on ffs,how many more times are we gonna chat bout this.

I don't hear the fat lady singing...................

[POSTMAN]

I love theses volume threads

Anyway,no bullying as far as i can see,both sides give as good as they get,although guys,come on ffs,how many more times are we gonna chat bout this.

I don't hear the fat lady singing...................

You know dgp1 is gonna come on now and you 2 are going to have a 2 page off topic chat about fat birds.

[dvbuk55]

I love theses volume threads

Anyway,no bullying as far as i can see,both sides give as good as they get,although guys,come on ffs,how many more times are we gonna chat bout this.

I don't hear the fat lady singing...................

You know dgp1 is gonna come on now and you 2 are going to have a 2 page off topic chat about fat birds.

Well how wrong can one man be - lah lah lah lah - see it's a fat bloke humming - and perlease no jokes

[Phantom]

Must be a breeze blowing between someones ears, if not several. Bag weight equals volume? And this is supposed to be an informed source of information? Good grief....

No not necessarily, its items per household is what counts and this is not in decline! as not all mail centres count each individual item this will be a problem and until they do they will never have a true account of how much mail is in the system.

Remember 200 is greater 100! just incase you were struggling of what MORE is!