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What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

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Geezer
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What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by Geezer »

I was talking to a college today,about the up coming National Strike and he expressed his opinion that he personally thought we would not gain anything worth the paper it was written on.
This got me thinking, what do i personally hope to gain from the Industrial Action which we will be taking in the very near future, And how does that compare with other peoples expectations.
Now i know all about the 35 Hrs week and of course the Pension Issue but what else would i personally like to see come out of all this,
and how does that compare with the views of everyone else, so here goes.

The most important change for me would be an open and honest management structure, where managers could speak the truth not just to their workforce but their superiors
as well without fear of retribution, Then maybe the reality of what's happening on the floor,would filter through to the top,and new ways of working ect, would be brought in,
in a structured and realistic way.
There also needs to be a new system of some sort introduced, where managers that do bully, harass or intimidate people are disciplined or removed and where the person reporting then is not himself then bullied.
This might then let us all work together on making are working lives less stressful and bringing in new ideas to help RM make the profit they crave and at the same time helping to rebuild the best postal service in the world,
not only for the customers but for the whole work force as well.

Well that's me now how about you

what do you hope to gain
HootyMacBoob
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by HootyMacBoob »

The bare bones of this dispute is to have a union that can negotiate terms and conditions and pay, So although not a gain just the same, but the most important vote and dispute we will ever have and if its a no vote it will be your last vote so vote YES.
Cut Off King
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by Cut Off King »

VOTE YES for a say in your job

VOTE NO and be side-lined then made PART TIME then Sacked because someone 10 years younger can jump hedges between gardens and shave 20mins off your job
baldrick
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by baldrick »

I agree with Hooty. For me it's about the right to be heard, through my Union,
and to have a say in matters that affect my working life. :cfo
jockstrapp
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by jockstrapp »

To look forward to going into my work in the morning as I used to do.
phantomshare
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by phantomshare »

It must be a yes vote for the right to negotiate, it you vote no on this one you really shouldn't be in the cwu.

even with a yes vote it not all going to be nice and rosie there will be change but at least it gives us a say in that change..

please see sense and vote YES.
Geezer
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by Geezer »

I'm with all of you on the yes vote as is the mate i was talking to this morning.
when we say we want the union to be instrumental in the work place I'm in total agreement with that too.
What i should have stressed with my point about management, was they need to allow us to be part of the overall process
and have an input on a one to one level where are opinions are taken on board.And not to treat us like second class citizens with no rights.

Voted YES to the last strike
Voted NO to the Last Agreement
Will Be Voting YES In this Ballot


I Wasn't really asking how we should vote, But more on what we would like to get out of it
BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

Geezer wrote:I'm with all of you on the yes vote as is the mate i was talking to this morning.
when we say we want the union to be instrumental in the work place I'm in total agreement with that too.
What i should have stressed with my point about management, was they need to allow us to be part of the overall process
and have an input on a one to one level where are opinions are taken on board.And not to treat us like second class citizens with no rights.

Voted YES to the last strike
Voted NO to the Last Agreement
Will Be Voting YES In this Ballot


I Wasn't really asking how we should vote, But more on what we would like to get out of it
Then I think you need to rephrase your original question. Right now it reads like all our problems stem from a lack of communication between shop floor and senior management. I think most of us can see that everything we endure day to day is a direct product of top down management,diktat and threats.
Bye
pickaname
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by pickaname »

The end result for me would be Royal Mail actively engaging the union in order to construct a measured and realistic strategy for modernisation and its implementation.

If RM want efficiency and profitablity then human resources need to examined constructively before technology and machines.

This is why Royal mails business model is failing.
telulikis
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by telulikis »

Agree with Geezer and all the above.

thats why i'm voting yes :dance

When we get a yes vote for national Industrial action, the union should use this action/oppertunity to work to rule "Doing the job properly" :Applause
Managment can't stand that :hmmmm :Very Happy

The stratiogy should be from October, November & December with staggered strikes 4 wks before xmass. :hmmmm :cfo
stokes11eg
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by stokes11eg »

:sad: Self Respect.And if nothing else, it at least will show The Management we are no longer prepared to put up with their deplorable treatment of us.
mailsort6
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by mailsort6 »

Many years ago the postal system was working fine, the collection times were fine and time the mail got delivered to our customer was fine (early). Now collection times have been changed and posties leave their delivery office late to get the mail to our customers how can this be modernisation. I want our postal system to go back to what it use to be efficent and effective, the changes that are taking place now are not working. From what I have seen over the past decade automation has not improved RM why are we finishing later and later surely we should be finishing earlier and why are we still working 40 hours per week instead of 35 hours per week if they say the mail volumes are falling, this is all down to bad organisation and planning techiques and this is why I want a yes vote because we cannot carry on with all these incoherent ideas.
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by andy2007 »

I hope that we can:
Prevent any further degridation of our service.
Stop RM derecognising the CWU (which apears to be their intent).
Stop all EA, and return to proper negotiations.
Have achievable targets.
Get any/all new equipment up and running BEFORE giving out EVRs. Then we'll still have the resources to get the job done properly.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
Geezer
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by Geezer »

Then I think you need to rephrase your original question. Right now it reads like all our problems stem from a lack of communication between shop floor and senior management. I think most of us can see that everything we endure day to day is a direct product of top down management,diktat and threats.[/quote]


Then consider it rephrased, BELIAL

I was just wondering what we all hoped to get from the aforementioned strike action and if there was a common thread of things we would all like to gain from it.
When my mate said it to me the other day it just made me think! what would i hope we achieve and is that in anyway what other people hope for,because i want
as other posters have said to enjoy coming into work and feeling respected and valued not just a slave to be ordered about and treated with contempt.
slave
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Re: What Do You Personally Hope To Gain From Strike Action

Post by slave »

I'd really rather not go on strike and unless the union put forward a suitable plan of action (assuming it comes to it) then I might go in - no pissing about doing a day here or there and then have all the idiots running around the day after clearing it and booking o/t.. Strike and then back in, work your hours with no o/t.. That includes part-timers who seem to book loads of o/t to earn a wage - if you want full-time wage get a full-time job, not have RM pissing you about on part-time hours yet expecting you to work 40+hours a week!!

Having said that I will vote yes whatever, everybody needs to vote yes, no ifs no buts.. Without a strong yes vote RM will see weakness and will play on that and let us go on strike, they won't be concerned as they will think they can break us easily.

What do I want :
To be treated with dignity and respect at work!
Pension situation resolving would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.
35hour week? again, not arsed, would be nice but I'd rather work 40hours a week without being bullied and treated like s**t!
Not to be questioned and made to feel useless just because I exceeded my hours and I want paying o/t for it, if I work o/t then I should be thanked for helping the company out not be treated like a theiving scumbag.
A return to early deliveries, customers preferred them, I preferred it too.. I'm sick of sweating my bollocks off in the midday sun lugging heavy bags around, what happened to health and safety?
Removal of higher/top-level management with people that have common sense, I've spoken to a couple of line-managers who (whilst trying to be good little boys, to help their job prospects) are just as fed up with implementing this s**t as we are having to do it!

Hmm, I'll stop listing things now before it gets too fantasy-land!