Management

[dvbuk55]

Well, we don't have a rep for starters and only a couple in the union now. Can't see anyone striking here. Different at neighbouring delivery offices as I work between three at the moment on minimal hours (my choice). I stopped doing full time just under a year ago.

Ah - took the buy down then!

[Puppetmaster]

Try talking to exsisting Managers first,some are reasonable guys and will tell you how it is ,others are on another Planet and beleive everything they swallow from the senior management .Do you value your helth and Family?
You will be under loads of stress,you must do as senior Management tell you in everything ,including disciplinarys or else.Know so many Managers who are Divorced,have drink problems,been on long term sick leave on special duties,and one who collapsed due to stress.Many have left the company,coming in from outside is very difficult ,and you will have difficultys both with exsisting Managers and staff.

Good Luck
You will need it !!!

Also if a walk has to go out and nobodyelse to deliver it,Guess who will have to ?

[bandit650]

Well the training programme looks pretty good and the qualifications are well recognised.. I don't think any graduate managers are particularly well respected in any profession but I can normally spot a good egg from a bad one when I've been working under one. I've a few mates that work in different areas with RM and I get different pictures from them.

People go for operations management from the shop floor which is why I asked if anyone had done this

Yes i have and it is a thank-less task,the substantive managers look on you as an out sider,you will get s**t on at regular intervals,if you dont believe in RM's bull then you will fall at the hurdel,i am a fully assessed ML4 which in short means nout because if you dont want to play the game they will make sure it's not your turn for promotion.The good people who do the job for the right reasons walk away because you wont fit the mould,other than that the staff are fantastic and if you can earn thier respect then it was worth while.It was a 6 year experience i would not have missed and all the staff i worked with were great even the difficult one's.

[norbert]

Postby Night Tonic » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:36,am

Advances? Yes I can see them all. Two to a van, timed walks, full time to part-time, etc etc. As for returement I have exactly three months to go and delivering when most on here were in nappies :)

Few here know real hardship, very few old enough to have experienced it, or know whats really important in life. A pay freeze isn't. Jobs are in short supply. Count your blessings.

I was Just about to congratulate you on your retirement as you must be retired by now, and any strike ballot wouldn't affect you, and then I read this

Well, we don't have a rep for starters and only a couple in the union now. Can't see anyone striking here. Different at neighbouring delivery offices as I work between three at the moment on minimal hours (my choice). I stopped doing full time just under a year ago.

I find out that your still working in three offices [/quote]

Nothing wrong with a time traveling postman c'mon lads diversity & respect in the work place : Parcelfarce used to have timed rounds which would get you 18 months in jail breaking every speed limit going or could only be done in a Tardis .

The Fluffyside has had a history of posters tripping themselves up , there's one people suspect is a Area Manager .

[POSTMAN]

Well, we don't have a rep for starters and only a couple in the union now. Can't see anyone striking here. Different at neighbouring delivery offices as I work between three at the moment on minimal hours (my choice). I stopped doing full time just under a year ago.

So what's happening or going to happen at those offices then,you haven't answered my question properly.

[axeman]

Well, we don't have a rep for starters and only a couple in the union now. Can't see anyone striking here. Different at neighbouring delivery offices as I work between three at the moment on minimal hours (my choice). I stopped doing full time just under a year ago.

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cluster manager ?? longest three months ever (in refererence to quotes above as your bound to ask)

[Night Tonic]

My choice not to work full time and my business. As for other offices I have no idea. 50/50 I'd say. Most seem to feel that local agreements are a better idea but no rush that I can see to go walkies at the moment. If you spent less time trying to pick out posties that are some kind of Mandy plant, I make take you more seriously. But there you are, paranoid city. Just accept that not everyone supports a national strike and deal with it.

[dvbuk55]

My choice not to work full time and my business. As for other offices I have no idea. 50/50 I'd say. Most seem to feel that local agreements are a better idea but no rush that I can see to go walkies at the moment. If you spent less time trying to pick out posties that are some kind of Mandy plant, I make take you more seriously. But there you are, paranoid city. Just accept that not everyone supports a national strike and deal with it.

Is there a smiley for snoring?

[brothermagrew]

My choice not to work full time and my business. As for other offices I have no idea. 50/50 I'd say. Most seem to feel that local agreements are a better idea but no rush that I can see to go walkies at the moment. If you spent less time trying to pick out posties that are some kind of Mandy plant, I make take you more seriously. But there you are, paranoid city. Just accept that not everyone supports a national strike and deal with it.

NT whilst totally respecting your personal choice not to work full time, I would however disagree that the (most) which you have implied, feel that local agreements are better. I would surmise that the vast majority of CWU members would rather have national agreements in place. I do from reading further into your posting, also accept that not everyone supports a national strike, that's as may be. However, it will be dealt with by a national ballot and the CWU membership shall decide one way or another. Nothing paranoid about that. Dignity and respect to you and enjoy your retirement when it comes.

[westlondonpostie]

Postby Night Tonic » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:36,am
Advances? Yes I can see them all. Two to a van, timed walks, full time to part-time, etc etc. As for returement I have exactly three months to go and delivering when most on here were in nappies :)

Few here know real hardship, very few old enough to have experienced it, or know whats really important in life. A pay freeze isn't. Jobs are in short supply. Count your blessings.

Think yourself very lucky then Night Tonic,
You had the luxury of working for Royal Mail knowing that you had job security (unless you gave them the oppotunity to sack you).
For those of us that remain, job security is now a thing of the past, years ago bullying was unheard of, we also had a healthy pension to look forward to, deliveries were manageable and you didn't feel knackered everyday when you got home, you've had the option of reducing your hours but many fear they will have the hours reduced by Royal Mail with the changes they want to implement.
Congratulations on you're retirement I hope you enjoy it, as you've earned it. But don't forget us that remain, those that will continue to pay into the pension but not know how much of a pension we will get,those that have mortgages,those that have they're families futures to provide for.
This strike is about our future, and more offices are balloting every week because they are becoming aware of what Royal Mail has planned, they want to get rid of the union and ride rough-shod over they're workers, the systematic downgrading of the service with the ultimate goal of full privatisation and mega bucks wages for the likes of :cfo and the rest of us pay the price. Now thats why I'm striking!!!!

[mailsort6]

At least 12 to 14 years ago managers just use to leave the postman/women to do their jobs and with no interference the job got done (with less automation) and there was no bullying managers, the managers then had repect for you and you had respect for them ( you would go out your way for them when asked). Now we have these interfering managers that have been in the job for two minutes telling experienced posties what to do, some of them don't even know the job themselves.

[rockytony67]

My choice not to work full time and my business. As for other offices I have no idea. 50/50 I'd say. Most seem to feel that local agreements are a better idea but no rush that I can see to go walkies at the moment. If you spent less time trying to pick out posties that are some kind of Mandy plant, I make take you more seriously. But there you are, paranoid city. Just accept that not everyone supports a national strike and deal with it.

Off course everything you do is your choice, the problem is you post them on the site and are then found out to be telling porkies I enjoy reading your views because the forum would be very sterile if we all held the same views, but how can anyone take your views seriously when in one post you claim to be in the RM pension fund(to support your argument) and in another you claim not to be, and that you've got private pension funds. You claim to be a long service postman, and yet as all of us with long service know joining the pension was compulsory. So please stop treating honest working people with contempt your views may be different then mine but I and most people on here don't put our views forward(right or wrong) and claim to be something we're not

[Night Tonic]

My choice not to work full time and my business. As for other offices I have no idea. 50/50 I'd say. Most seem to feel that local agreements are a better idea but no rush that I can see to go walkies at the moment. If you spent less time trying to pick out posties that are some kind of Mandy plant, I make take you more seriously. But there you are, paranoid city. Just accept that not everyone supports a national strike and deal with it.

Off course everything you do is your choice, the problem is you post them on the site and are then found out to be telling porkies I enjoy reading your views because the forum would be very sterile if we all held the same views, but how can anyone take your views seriously when in one post you claim to be in the RM pension fund(to support your argument) and in another you claim not to be, and that you've got private pension funds. You claim to be a long service postman, and yet as all of us with long service know joining the pension was compulsory. So please stop treating honest working people with contempt your views may be different then mine but I and most people on here don't put our views forward(right or wrong) and claim to be something we're not

I don't tell porkies but I don't leave a nice trail to my DO either, anymore than anyone else does I hope. Those that waste their time trying to do detective work will have nothing concrete to work from but feel free, its your time. Theres an assumption that I don't care about what happens to the job or the guys I work with. I do but I'm a realist and you will NEVER be able to go back to the old days. The CWU is well and truly finished and the sooner you see that, the easier its going to be. I have an RM pension and 'other arrangements', some of which I'm able to draw on so I'm not struggling but these were decisions I took. I did not want to be reliant on one source of income and most knew that public service pensions were rocky even ten years ago.

I don't treat you with contempt but I do believe you are foolish if you think strikes will save you. I'm not the only one who thinks that and this is why national action is so hard to drum up. I can only tell you the feedback I've had and you either accept it or don't and just keep believing what you want to believe. You can take solace in like-minded people but it doesn't guarantee you anything at all except a harder fall when you are proved wrong. The next choice for the CWU will be whether to step up action but I doubt many can afford to be losing that amount of money and still get no deal from RM HQ or the government If you think RM will give in, you're barking mad.

[POSTMAN]

Well, we don't have a rep for starters and only a couple in the union now. Can't see anyone striking here. Different at neighbouring delivery offices as I work between three at the moment on minimal hours (my choice). I stopped doing full time just under a year ago.

So what's happening or going to happen at those offices then,you haven't answered my question properly.

And again,what's happening there?At the 3?Is stuff ok because they don't want to strike?Have they just rolled over?What's the canteens like there?
Any chance of answering,you usually have a lot to say!

[mailsort6]

The thing is us posties do not know whether our PDOs, Mail Centres, etc are safe from closure or merger. Until we know what is what take no chances. Just because your office hardly has no CWU members and no rep, this does not mean that it will not close and remember if your office is down for closure remember at the end of the day it is the CWU that has to fight your cause, therefore, I would not knock the union.