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sorting standards
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kybear
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sorting standards
Hi in our del office we are now getting tested on our sorting,we have to sort all our mail in to our frame,the manager then counts the number of items in our frame then works out how many items you sort a minute the standard they set is 25 a minute is anyone else getting these tests in there office,most people are not hitting these standards.
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k979aaa
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Re: sorting standards
I bet it delays you haveing to wait for him to count all the letters you have thrown in does he have another four managers to help him as he only hs 10 fingers!.kybear wrote:Hi in our del office we are now getting tested on our sorting,we have to sort all our mail in to our frame,the manager then counts the number of items in our frame then works out how many items you sort a minute the standard they set is 25 a minute is anyone else getting these tests in there office,most people are not hitting these standards.
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k979aaa
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Re: sorting standards
It is a one minute test and it depends on the frame you are using some one will post those standards as i don't know all of them!.kybear wrote:Hi in our del office we are now getting tested on our sorting,we have to sort all our mail in to our frame,the manager then counts the number of items in our frame then works out how many items you sort a minute the standard they set is 25 a minute is anyone else getting these tests in there office,most people are not hitting these standards.
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kybear
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Re: sorting standards
It is a one minute test and it depends on the frame you are using some one will post those standards as i don't know all of them!.
No this is not the 1 minute test you put all your mail in the frame letters flats sort your packets out and it is worked out on the time it takes you and the amount of items you have to deliver.
No this is not the 1 minute test you put all your mail in the frame letters flats sort your packets out and it is worked out on the time it takes you and the amount of items you have to deliver.
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DGP1
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Re: sorting standards
The same is happening in my office, 25 letters per minute for the entire prep time
, the managers all seem to think it's really easy (but any frame they prep is both slow and badly done).
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kybear
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Re: sorting standards
We asked the dom what would happen if people did not hit these standards,the reply was they would get sacked,what a caring employer they aredisgruntledpostie1 wrote:The same is happening in my office, 25 letters per minute for the entire prep time, the managers all seem to think it's really easy (but any frame they prep is both slow and badly done).
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POSTMAN
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Re: sorting standards
How comes you're having to do this then,has there been problems ect.kybear wrote:Hi in our del office we are now getting tested on our sorting,we have to sort all our mail in to our frame,the manager then counts the number of items in our frame then works out how many items you sort a minute the standard they set is 25 a minute is anyone else getting these tests in there office,most people are not hitting these standards.
And they can't just sack you btw,ignore that s**t.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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kybear
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Re: sorting standards
How comes you're having to do this then,has there been problems ect.
And they can't just sack you btw,ignore that s**t.
We are being told this is a national thing every delivery postman will be doing these tests,just wondering if we were all getting these sorting tests we have had the 1 minute test on our ip for ages but this one is on our delivery frame.
And they can't just sack you btw,ignore that s**t.
We are being told this is a national thing every delivery postman will be doing these tests,just wondering if we were all getting these sorting tests we have had the 1 minute test on our ip for ages but this one is on our delivery frame.
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jockstrapp
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Re: sorting standards
We have had this done to us when we say we are cutting off. The average in our office 13/min. although dimsh!t said it should be 24. Grievences were promtly put in. still waiting a meeting. :mfo
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pinstripe
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Re: sorting standards
The only test the Union recognises is the 1 minute test. AFAIK this can be used on either IPS or delivery frames. You should be handed a counted bundle of letters, told to start and finish, whatever you have prepped is taken as your average rate, eg 25 per minute. If you are below the standards expected you will firstly be offered training to achieve the required standard, your managers are talking rubbish, pure and simple.
I also doubt that this is a national thing, RM has more than enough to cope with, what with strikes everywhere, still if they have some more spare managers needing work I'm sure there are some car parks needing a good sweeping, I've heard that they are good at sweeping things, usually under carpets.
I also doubt that this is a national thing, RM has more than enough to cope with, what with strikes everywhere, still if they have some more spare managers needing work I'm sure there are some car parks needing a good sweeping, I've heard that they are good at sweeping things, usually under carpets.
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HootyMacBoob
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Re: sorting standards
Im afraid they aint regognizing any agreed standards and are going to press ahead with these unagreed unacheivable and unreasonable sorting rates. Its all about bullying our members into not cuting off and not putting in O/T we have already got members going threw the conduct code for willfull delay so if your office aint been balloted or is in for a ballot you better ask your rep or area rep WHY.
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Spedley
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Re: sorting standards
It all sounds really silly to me.
Surely, if you can't do 24 letter per minute ... non-stop ... for 2 hours, then they have failed to train you properly?
Surely, if you can't do 24 letter per minute ... non-stop ... for 2 hours, then they have failed to train you properly?
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DGP1
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Re: sorting standards
The thing about the sorting standards is that they are only being applied to those of us who make ourselves targets by speaking out, unless the management apply the rules to everyone then they cannot use it to discipline you (at least lawfully).
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Body Beyond Repair
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Re: sorting standards
If not already happining in your office it will be shortly!!
Our office has already been balloted for this same reason as there is no agreement on a throughput basis but RM have set there budget targets on this unachievable standard so when staff cannot meet this and woud like to finish on time poor performance is to blame and intimidation becomes the norm.Currently taking IA every sat morning at 9.00 for this reason going into our sixth sat this weekend
Our office has already been balloted for this same reason as there is no agreement on a throughput basis but RM have set there budget targets on this unachievable standard so when staff cannot meet this and woud like to finish on time poor performance is to blame and intimidation becomes the norm.Currently taking IA every sat morning at 9.00 for this reason going into our sixth sat this weekend