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Summer Health In Courier

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
norbert
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Re: Summer Health In Courier

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itllnottouchyou wrote:
woofwoof wrote:
itllnottouchyou wrote:we should all get together and wear just thon stupid hi vis vest without a polo shirt below them to see the look on their faces!!!! :cool
do i keep my thong on
get it lets all do a nationwide commando day!!!!! :chuckle
could have a thong and a cricket box painted blue & red with Royal Mail on it , problem is that you'd all look like something out of one of "those parades" in Manchester or Brighton .

:mfo would think Christmas had come early :Very Happy
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axeman
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are those cabinet ministers following the 'mandy look' or is it our top brass ?? :left:
norbert
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Post by norbert »

axeman wrote:are those cabinet ministers following the 'mandy look' or is it our top brass ?? :left:
he did go for the moustache at one time but I don't think the mandatory check shirt was very New Labour , let alone the teddy bear in the back pocket :left:

We'd one club that was populated by " women in comfortable shoes " all bedecked in Lumberjack shirts , Levi 501's & cowboy boots and they were known for knocking seven bells out of each other

I believe the irony about " The Village People " was that only one was gay and apparently it wasn't the most obvious one either .
axeman
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Heard a postman has collapsed whilst on delivery due to heat exaustion this postie is a regular marathon runner apparently so much for the caring employers. Just goes to prove royal fail does not really give a s**t ........but we all know that anyway


Anyone know anything more ?
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norbert
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axeman wrote:Heard a postman has collapsed whilst on delivery (Wales?) due to heat exaustion this postie is a regular marathon runner apparently so much for the caring employers. Just goes to prove royal fail does not really give a s**t ........but we all know that anyway


Anyone know anything more ?
RM will be typing his RMAP & wilful delay letters out as we speak :hmmmm
ar26
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Re: Summer Health In Courier

Post by ar26 »

If a postie Collapsed from heat exhaustion on delivery then the UNION must step in now before someone dies. The info in the courier is just common sense something that Royal Mail don't have and they will kill someone if they carry on like this. The union needs to get this stuff on the Telly in the radio and if someone has collapsed then hopefully they have recovered but that should be in every newspaper and on every TV report till Royal Mail are shamed into changing thier attitude about health and safety of thier staff.

I was today out in my storm jacket in temperatures of 28 degress because of torrential rain. I cannot believe we do not have a light weight cogule to use in the summer.
revilo88
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Post by revilo88 »

I do think provision of suncream for employees should be mandatory, Quite a few other companies i know do this.

I personally dont take any risks and cover myself in factor 60 every single day whether its sunny or cloudy, It does turn me into a sweaty greasy mess but its not going to kill me. :shock:

I get through a bottle about every twoish threeish weeks, and it certainly isnt cheap stuff.

For all those recommendations to be in courier is a complete joke to be honest.
bandit650
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Just catching up with the all whats been going on,we also have put this forward in work time boring asking for guidence and devine intervension from our beloved leaders,firstly he said yes we had a look at the card and we had a good laugh not alot we can do about it hope that you all understand you have a job to do and that is what we expect you to do your job.I have worked in hotter places than this i was in the Army and we worked in very hot countrys,we were expected to just carry on,then he said just to make us feel a little better Distribution drivers have it worse than you out on delivery dont get me wrong but just get on with delivering the mail.This is what our manager said so if we could just get on,Hope this makes everybody feel better the next time the temp goes up.
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bandit650 wrote:Just catching up with the all whats been going on,we also have put this forward in work time boring asking for guidence and devine intervension from our beloved leaders,firstly he said yes we had a look at the card and we had a good laugh not alot we can do about it hope that you all understand you have a job to do and that is what we expect you to do your job.I have worked in hotter places than this i was in the Army and we worked in very hot countrys,we were expected to just carry on,then he said just to make us feel a little better Distribution drivers have it worse than you out on delivery dont get me wrong but just get on with delivering the mail.This is what our manager said so if we could just get on,Hope this makes everybody feel better the next time the temp goes up.
I personally have worked in the Jungles of Central America and in the Tropical conditions of Hong Kong where a temperature of 36 degrees C and Humidity of 98% was normal. I worked one day when the recorded temperature in the shade was 40 degrees C. The difference, and its a big one, is that in both places there were conditions and rules in place that gave all service people a chance to acclimatise to the prevailing conditions. On no account was anyone who had not acclimatised was to work outside between 1 and 3pm and no heavy work or exercise was permitted. After the acclimatisation period medics or trained first aiders should always to be present during physical training or were heavy work was being carried out. The first aider bit was easy though as everyone was First Aid Trained.
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bandit650
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Your right true blue the whole thing is the manager that we have really does not care all he is intreasted in was getting the deliverys out and with no extra cost to be incured,i had a wobbly moment out on delivery and cut my arm open where i fell against a wall he was very matter of fact with us and about my arm,he just wanted us to go and dissappear,how he sounded is just like i wrote it,it's nice to know that were not alone in our office,that staff all over are having problems and being so in-diffrent toward us.Sad really but thats how it's going in Royal Fail.
shadow
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Rm will be hoping a few of us drop down dead anyway. They will just say one down x amount to go. :evil/mad
k979aaa
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The fact is when the bosses H/Q is spending thousands on chairs and tables and bullying their staff to seat their bums at those chairs to beat their fists on those tables for more savings of the posties back's is obscene as their bonuses while the postmen and women starve on their pay freeze!.
mclovin
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Post by mclovin »

And here is HSE's reply.

Ref: VBRY-7TTDJW
Dear Mr *********
Thank you for your enquiry regarding temperatures whilst at work.
There is no maximum or minimum temperature set down under health and safety regulations which relates to outdoor workers.
Section 2 of the Health & Safety at Work etc Act 1974 places a general duty of care upon employers to ensure the health, safety and welfare of all employees at work.
In addition to this, all employers are required to assess the risks to their employees health, safety and welfare from work activities and put into place precautionary measures to reduce those highlighted risks. Risk assessments are a legal requirement under the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999.
Regulation 3 stipulates that:
Every employer shall make a suitable and sufficient assessment of -
(a) the risks to the health and safety of his employees to which they are exposed whilst they are at work; and
(b) the risks to the health and safety of persons not in his employment arising out of or in connection with the conduct by him of his undertaking.
The associated Approved Code of Practice states:
This regulation requires all employers and self-employed people to assess the risks to workers and any others who may be affected by their work or business. This will enable them to identify the measures they need to take to comply with health and safety law. All employers should carry out a systematic general examination of the effect of their undertaking, their work activities and the condition of the premises. Those who employ five or more employees should record the significant findings of that risk assessment.
A risk assessment is carried out to identify the risks to health and safety to any person arising out of, or in connection with, work or the conduct of their undertaking. It should identify how the risks arise and how they impact on those affected. This information is needed to make decisions on how to manage those risks so that the decisions are made in an informed, rational and structured manner, and the action taken is proportionate.
A risk assessment should usually involve identifying the hazards present in any working environment or arising out of commercial activities and work activities, and evaluating the extent of the risks involved, taking into account existing precautions and their effectiveness. In this approved code of practice:
(a) a hazard is something with the potential to cause harm (this can include articles, substances, plant or machines, methods of work, the working environment and other aspects of work organisation);
(b) a risk is the likelihood of potential harm from that hazard being realised. The extent of the risk will depend on:
(i) the likelihood of that harm occurring;
(ii) the potential severity of that harm, i.e. of any resultant injury or adverse health effect; and
(iii) the population which might be affected by the hazard, i.e. the number of people who might be exposed.
Reference: L21 The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999: Approved Code of Practice and Guidance, ISBN 9780717624881, £8.00.
In relation to construction workers, the Construction (Design and Management) Regulations 2007 states the following:
Temperature and weather protection
43(1) Suitable and sufficient steps shall be taken to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, that during working hours the temperature at any indoor place of work to which these Regulations apply is reasonable having regard to the purpose for which that place is used.
(2) Every place of work outdoors shall, where necessary to ensure the health and safety of persons at work there, be so arranged that, so far as is reasonably practicable and having regard to the purpose for which that place is used and any protective clothing or equipment provided for the use of any person at work there, it provides protection from adverse weather.
Reference: L144 Managing Health and Safety in Construction: Construction (Design and Management) Regulations 2007 ISBN 97807176 62234 £15.00
Regarding providing protective equipment such as the provision of thermal or waterproof clothing, the relevant regulations are the Personal Protective Equipment at Work Regulations 1992. Regulation 4 states:
Every employer shall ensure that suitable personal protective equipment is provided to his employees who may be exposed to a risk to their health or safety while at work except where and to the extent that such risk has been adequately controlled by other means which are equally or more effective.
The associated guidance states:
Employers should, therefore, provide appropriate personal protective equipment (PPE) and training in its usage to their employees wherever there is a risk to health and safety that cannot be adequately controlled by other means.
In order to provide PPE for their employees, employers must do more than simply have the equipment on the premises. The employees must have the equipment readily available, or at the very least have clear instructions on where they can obtain it.
By virtue of Section 9 of the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974, no charge can be made to the worker for the provision of PPE which is used only at work.
Section 9 of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 states: "No employer shall levy or permit to be levied on any employee of his any charge in respect of anything done or provided in pursuance of any specific requirement of the relevant statutory provisions". Section 9 applies to these Regulations because they impose a 'specific requirement' - i.e. to provide PPE.
Reference: L25: Personal Protective Equipment at Work Regulations 1992: Guidance on Regulations,
ISBN 9780717661398, £5.75
Copies of HSE publications are available from HSE Books
stokes11eg
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:sad: See they made no mention of the LEGALLY required thermometors,which half the Offices don'y seem to have!
bandit650
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Mclovin just to say thank you for the HSE reply it was a good read and a good source of infomation.