Disagreement with Royal Mail, help!

[axeman]

tman can you quantify 'keen' or do you mean willing to bend the rules ( ie ignore h&s issues ) to enable you to obtain higher figgures (throughput)

[Tman]

"axeman"]tman can you quantify 'keen'

No, but presumably as a speaker of English you are well aware of it's use and meaning in this context?

or do you mean willing to bend the rules ( ie ignore h&s issues ) to enable you to obtain higher figgures (throughput) :roll

I don't see how "bending rules" or ignoring H&S issues has any bearing on this thread. Any connection? Then again, you tried to go down some irrelevant "ageism" path too, so I suppose it's just you being you.......as usual.

[axeman]

oop's tman a little slip up there will never make it to being a stooge eh ! .... as i said you state ' keen ' please enlighten as it's seems to be the ' buzz word ' can only guess it's the willingness to the avoidence / blind eye syndrome to health and saftey issues to enable a higher throughput
and yes it's bordering on ageism a big no,no

[Tman]

You need to reread what's been said above before bothering to post further. Why ask me about ageism or breaking H&S rules when you've brought up both ideas, and neither have any connection to this thread?

[graffi]

i work on lsm's and i have advance tpm, im my office if you apply for duty and you are most senior,then they have to train you on the lsm's and give you advance tpm ,thats equal opps they cannot descriminate they have to offer training !

[baldrick]

So what exactly is Advanced TPM?

[axeman]

He may well be. He could be more conscientious and reliable and very good at it, but, and it's a very big but, more often than not old Joe's spent a lifetime delivering post rather than doing anything remotely "technical". Modes, plans and streams are bewildering, as are touch-screens, flashing lights and buttons,or error messages, and really, he's rather not be on his feet all night long and having to keep clearing that rapidly filling S/C or Reuseable box, so he doesn't, and it jams. Continuously.It may not be "that difficult" but there's a huge disparity between a "good" operator and a "bad" one.

The fairest way is by interview or assessment, but that seems a step too far for RM or the CWU.

think that sums your attitude up mr tman

[Tman]

think that sums your attitude up mr tman

If it didn't, I wouldn't have written it, would I?

C'mon Agent, think before you post.......

[PamelaPorter]

Hi and welome to rmc
LSM operators are not a specialist job as defined by the Way Forward agreement (see downloads
section on this site).
IMP/MTT operators are designated as specialist jobs, subject to specialist selection criteria,
bur LSM operators are not.
In Mount Pleasant MC they are signed for in resigns or fit-ups as any other non-specialist jobs, and
you will then get trained for it.

It is a job you need to be trained for though, so you couldn't pick it up as a reserve, unless you
are already trained on it.

Neither LSMs or MTTs are specialist jobs, here at Dorset, when a LSM or MTT duty is vacant it just gets put on the board whenever vacant duties go up. LSMs might possibly become specialist duties in the future with their utilization for walk sequencing.

IN MY OFFICE YOU GET THE DUTY IF YOU ARE SENIOR,AND THEN HAVE TO BE TRAINED IN THAT DUTY,INCLUDING ALL MECH,DON'T KNOW THE RIGHTS OR WRONGS OF IT AS PER "WAY FORWARD"OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DONT PASS THE TRAINING THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO REVERT BACK TO THE PREVIOUS DUTY,BUT IN 10YRS,I HAVE ONLY KNOWN 1 POSTIE FAIL A MECH COURSE.WE HAVE MANY BELOW PAR MECHIES WHERE I WORK.THATS THE STATE OF TRAINING THESE DAY.