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RM bossess accused of mail tampering to rig QS figures

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thehappyones wrote:WELL GUYS 19 SENIOR MANAGEMENT AND 3 MEMBERS OF STAFF HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED ALSO ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WAS DUE TO FLY OUT ON HOLIDAY AND THEY HAVE HAD THEIR PASSPORT CONFISCATED!!..............ALL THIS IS ALLEGED OBVISOULY................AT LEAST WE BROTHERS.................AND SISTERS ,HAVE OUR INTEGRITY INTACT ,I HOPE IM NOT BEING ALARMIST NOW WHEN I SAY I HOPE THIS SCANDAL ISNT ANOTHER TORPEDO IN THE SIDE OF THE GOOD SHIP ROYAL MAIL........ MAN THE LIFEBOATS ?????... :pray :pray
I don't think RM has the power to confiscate your passport, I think only a court has that power.
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:crazy: Yes, if his Passport has been confiscated, he must be awaitng trial. it seems there is a lot more to this than we are being told.
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i jokingly asked for a mgment applction form for a position dom thought i was serious :left:
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Nice big half page spread (Page 12) in today's Scotish Daily Mail. Bold typed heading Mail boss suspended in postal scam probe and underlined Managers accused of rigging performance results. Interestingly, it is understood that a former Royal Mail employee raised the alarm over the secret practice, which is said to have been devised by senior postal managers to boost performance results.
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This snowballs starting to get big.
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PrestwickPostie wrote:
Tamsky wrote:The west of scotland Area Management Team have all been precautionary suspended. Pity they not in CWU - could do with some representation :roll:

We all knew for some time RM figures based on SISO - shite in shite out. :arrrghhh

is my former boss 1 of the precautionary suspended Tam

scrap that he is now the new DSM :hmmmm
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THE BUCK STOPS HERE :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo OR HERE :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo
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k979aaa wrote:THE BUCK STOPS HERE :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo OR HERE :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo :lfo
:hmmmm Remind me ,which one got in trouble with a previous employer for fiddling the figures, and which one got in trouble with a previous employer when they were forced to chase him through the courts to try and get several million of their money back off him.
And with track records like that, who on earth would trust them to look after their christmas club?
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brothermagrew wrote:Nice big half page spread (Page 12) in today's Scotish Daily Mail. Bold typed heading Mail boss suspended in postal scam probe and underlined Managers accused of rigging performance results. Interestingly, it is understood that a former Royal Mail employee raised the alarm over the secret practice, which is said to have been devised by senior postal managers to boost performance results.
Cant get to read that online! Did it go so far to name the alleged corrupters?
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It would be unfair and wrong as an inquiry is underway, to possibly prejudice a Royal Mail employees innocence or guilt. But to directly answer your query the news article to which you refer did name one person.
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Is it not our leader's :cfo nor former leader's :lfo or in deed our future leader's :mfo not responsible for all of this!. It is their policy's & diktat that set the tone for the service/business!. Is it not the case that those who are most guilty are so quite and may i add a bonus stolen of the back's of the workforce will NEVER endear that same workforce to the CAUSE OF LINING THE SAME OLD CORRUPT AND DECADENT MANAGEMENT! :lfo . :cfo :mfo
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For clarity:

Postal Services Act 2000

Part V

Offences in relation to Postal Services

83 Interfering with the mail: postal operators (1) A person who is engaged in the business of a postal operator commits an offence if, contrary to his duty and without reasonable excuse, he—
(a) intentionally delays or opens a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post, or
(b) intentionally opens a mail-bag.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet or the opening of a mail-bag under the authority of—
(a) this Act or any other enactment (including, in particular, in pursuance of a warrant issued under any other enactment), or
(b) any directly applicable Community provision.
(3) Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet in accordance with any terms and conditions applicable to its transmission by post.
(4) Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying of a postal packet as a result of industrial action in contemplation or furtherance of a trade dispute.
(5) In subsection (4) “trade dispute” has the meaning given by section 244 of the [1992 c. 52.] Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 or Article 127 of the [S.I. 1995/1980 (N.I.12).] Trade Union and Labour Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 1995; and the reference to industrial action shall be construed in accordance with that Act or (as the case may be) that Order.
(6) A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) shall be liable—
(a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both,
(b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to both.

84 Interfering with the mail: general (1) A person commits an offence if, without reasonable excuse, he—
(a) intentionally delays or opens a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post, or
(b) intentionally opens a mail-bag.
(2) Subsections (2) to (5) of section 83 apply to subsection (1) above as they apply to subsection (1) of that section.
(3) A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person’s detriment and without reasonable excuse, he opens a postal packet which he knows or reasonably suspects has been incorrectly delivered to him.
(4) Subsections (2) and (3) of section 83 (so far as they relate to the opening of postal packets) apply to subsection (3) above as they apply to subsection (1) of that section.
(5) A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) or (3) shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both.
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:hmmmm Suppose thats a grey area ,tampering with the post in order to achieve postconn and license targets .bet your life some county judge will find this to be a "reasonable excuse" . The managers accused your honour had reason to suspect that all the Qof S panelists were simultaneously involved in a nuclear terrorist threat :left: :left: :left:
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HI KIDDIES,THERE ARE ONLY 3 SENIOR MANAGERS LEFT IN GLASGOW MAIL CENTRE ,PLENTY OF DIFFERENT FACES KICKING ABOUT NOW
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:shock: AYe--what's your bets they are Managers who have been moved from other offices for their misdeeds there!!!
I hardly know my Managers any more. so quickly do they come and go!