brothermagrew wrote:No. 468/09
Ref P17
Date: 28 May 2009
To: All Branches
Dear Colleagues
Glasgow Postman shooting incident Saturday 23 May 2009
A number of enquires have been received by the Health, Safety & Environment Dept in relation to a shooting incident involving a Glasgow delivery postman which occurred last weekend and which has been reported widely in the regional and national press. Some of the reports have been somewhat distorted, possibly due to the fact that the unfortunate victim a CWU member, declined press interviews and publicity.
For the record the facts are that the delivery postman working out of the Glasgow Barrhead G78 Delivery office was performing his normal Saturday morning delivery round on the city's Crossmill/ Dunterlie Estate when he came under fire in what was a "random" incident. He was fired at 9 times with a high powered air riffle and hit twice, once in the temple and once in the face, receiving superficial injuries, the worst of which was a nasty injury to his face where one of the pellets penetrated his upper lip and a front tooth was lost.
After taking cover and calling 999 the emergency services and Police attended the scene and he was taken to the Royal Alexandria Hospital in Paisley where he received the necessary emergency medical treatment and has subsequently been afforded psychological support and assistance. The Glasgow Barrhead Police immediately launched an investigation which led quickly to the arrest of an individual who has been assisting Police enquiries in relation to fire arms and assault charges. The Police investigation is continuing. The Glasgow & Dist Amal Branch have been fully involved, giving the member every assistance and support, Arthur Nugent ASR has carried out a full incident investigation and has been working closely with Royal Mail and is conducting a "walk safe" assault policy review. He remains in close contact with the injured member. Deliveries to the Crossmill Avenue, Dunterlie Estate area have been suspended pending the outcome of the ongoing investigation to protect the safety of our members.
This incident sadly demonstrates the type of environment and society which we live in and in which some of our members have to perform their duties, facing the risk of assaults, robberies and dog attacks for example. Fortunately, incidents of this nature remain relatively low in comparison with the number of people we have out working in the streets and in contact with the public, but the situation is not getting any better and this calls for a suitable level of vigilance.
It is very important that Area Safety Representatives and other branch officials ensure that "high risk areas" are jointly monitored and that agreed "walk safe" assaults policy risk assessments are regularly reviewed and kept up to date. The safety, security and wellbeing of our members is of paramount importance.
Yours Sincerely
Dave Joyce
National Health, Safety & Environment Officer
They already caught him! I hope he gets Life for this!
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
that could happen too, and probably has happened. dropping objects from a height is a velocity injury. not that it makes any logic to throw things, not everybody lives and learn
and here comes avi cohen! oh i say! at the same end, he's got one back!!
johnsouthwales wrote:that could happen too, and probably has happened. dropping objects from a height is a velocity injury. not that it makes any logic to throw things, not everybody lives and learn
About two months ago i was in the back of a van and heard this huge bang turned out this guy luanched his tv out from the seventh floor of a tower block it sounded like a small bomb going off!.
think id be having palpitations if i was sitting in a van and something dropped down on it. i know its esay to laugh it off eventually.
like only fools and horses episode, jolly boys outing... uncle albert was saying a funny thing happened on the way home. boycie and mike were walking past and someone chucked a case out of the winda
and here comes avi cohen! oh i say! at the same end, he's got one back!!
johnsouthwales wrote:think id be having palpitations if i was sitting in a van and something dropped down on it. i know its esay to laugh it off eventually.
like only fools and horses episode, jolly boys outing... uncle albert was saying a funny thing happened on the way home. boycie and mike were walking past and someone chucked a case out of the winda
I and the van was safe 80 yards away still s**t myself though. But what could have been a 7 grain pellet at 880fps = 12 ft/lb a TV at 40lbs at 60fps = 2000ft/lb need i say more a car is ten times worse at just 20mph.
another hyperfetical question. talking of things falling down. stormy weather, high winds. cops normally get a football match cancelled if the weather is likely to cause injury. roof slates and the like, falling debris through high winds or gales, public safety.
is there a no go for posties or is it a take care when you're out?
and here comes avi cohen! oh i say! at the same end, he's got one back!!
A falling TV, is far from accurate, and probably not intended to hurt anyone. But someone loading a weapon, aiming at a target, and squeezing the trigger, is a deliberate attempt to cause harm. And firing several times, shows a determined effort to cause as much harm as possible. For all we know at the moment: He could have been trying to kill the Postie!
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
johnsouthwales wrote:another hyperfetical question. talking of things falling down. stormy weather, high winds. cops normally get a football match cancelled if the weather is likely to cause injury. roof slates and the like, falling debris through high winds or gales, public safety.
is there a no go for posties or is it a take care when you're out?
If you don't feel safe or are under a perceived threat cut off deal with it later! you might not get a second chance.
andy2007 wrote:A falling TV, is far from accurate, and probably not intended to hurt anyone. But someone loading a weapon, aiming at a target, and squeezing the trigger, is a deliberate attempt to cause harm. And firing several times, shows a determined effort to cause as much harm as possible. For all we know at the moment: He could have been trying to kill the Postie!
In which case makes the guy a MORON and is just the type to throw a tv out a flat or a brick on a motorway all three ways deserve a hefty sentence but do they every get it!.
But what could have been a 7 grain pellet at 880fps = 12 ft/lb a TV at 40lbs at 60fps = 2000ft/lb need i say more a car is ten times worse at just 20mph.
