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Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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whitemoor66
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Royal Mail and the one hour contact

Post by whitemoor66 »

Just got back from my employment tribunal with the Royal Mail. The employment judge said that my one hour contract was a farce and didn't reflect the reality of the job. I got back pay on my annual leave based on an average of 35 hours a week that I worked instead of the 1 hour contract. I also got paid for overtime that they refused to pay me above the 40 hours. The 2 managers faces were a picture as was the Eversheds solicitor. I am no longer a postie and did this off my own back. This judgement in my favour could have far reaching implications for part time and especially 1 hour contracts. Go and get whats yours boys and girls. By the way the managers lied a bit. They swore on the Holy Bible. I think they might not be going to heaven.
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Do you have a link to the tribunal decision because it could lead to a class action against RM for every PTer who works 40 hours but is sharfted over holiday/sick pay.
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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whitemoor66 wrote:Just got back from my employment tribunal with the Royal Mail. The employment judge said that my hour one contract was a farce and didn't reflect the reality of the job. I got back pay on my annual leave based on an average of 35 hours a week that I worked instead of the 1 hour contract. I also got paid for overtime that they refused to pay me above the 40 hours. The 2 managers faces were a picture as was the Eversheds solicitor. I am no longer a postie and did this off my own back. This judgement in my favour could have far reaching implications for part time and especially 1 hour contracts. Go and get whats yours boys and girls. By the way the managers lied a bit. They swore on the Holy Bible. I think they might not be going to heaven.
Good on you and this just shows royalmail for what it is NEXT THEY WILL BE SENDING OUT PRESS-GANGS!. Good luck in your new job career and with the courage and fortitude that you have shown you will go far. :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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whitemoor66 wrote:Just got back from my employment tribunal with the Royal Mail. The employment judge said that my hour one contract was a farce and didn't reflect the reality of the job. I got back pay on my annual leave based on an average of 35 hours a week that I worked instead of the 1 hour contract. I also got paid for overtime that they refused to pay me above the 40 hours. The 2 managers faces were a picture as was the Eversheds solicitor. I am no longer a postie and did this off my own back. This judgement in my favour could have far reaching implications for part time and especially 1 hour contracts. Go and get whats yours boys and girls. By the way the managers lied a bit. They swore on the Holy Bible. I think they might not be going to heaven.

Salute you sir :Applause :Applause Lots more details please,the implications of this result if verified are massive for all those on less than full time contracts who regularly perform OT.
Were you a CWU member?
Even if you were not, why has our union ,with a paid up legal department not advanced a test case on this issue to my knowledge to date?
If this judgement is reported accurately and upheld (as it should be) then RM's new delivery model is blown out of the water :chuckle
Thank s in advance for more details, cos I know a lot of PT's in my office will be very keen to follow your example :Applause :Applause
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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I, like most like-minded people in this thread salute and praise you. Well done, this has been a bone of contention of mine for some time.

As others said, more details please!
By the way the managers lied a bit. They swore on the Holy Bible. I think they might not be going to heaven.
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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hmm id be interested in hearing more, i was on a 1hr contract until january (now 24hr) and was constantly at loggerheads with them about holidays/overtime and the legality of this contract, when i really started complaining about it, saying that what they did was illegal and citing government legislation i suddenly was offered a 24 hr contract, this may have been coincidence, i reckon they owe me about 500 quid.
whitemoor66
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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More details soon, I have to wait about a week from today to get a letter from the ET to put the judgement in writing.I am quite happy to scan it and post it on here. I will give you more info as and when I get it. I think I might have caused a ripple. All the best to you posties, I know you work hard under difficult conditions and yes I was a member of C.W.U but I was not impressed by them and went on my own.
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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Well done sir :Very Happy
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:dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause .
Well done, you have done what the Union should have done, and still be doing!!!
no doubt, they will now jump on the bandwagon, and make it look as though it is their success.
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Well done and good luck for the future :)
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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whitemoor66 wrote:More details soon, I have to wait about a week from today to get a letter from the ET to put the judgement in writing.I am quite happy to scan it and post it on here. I will give you more info as and when I get it. I think I might have caused a ripple. All the best to you posties, I know you work hard under difficult conditions and yes I was a member of C.W.U but I was not impressed by them and went on my own.
Obviously ,having been dragged through the "legal' process ,you will appreciate the need to dot the I's and cross the others,any info you can provide regarding this case would be an enormous boost to our brothers and sisters forced to exist on PT hours or bullied into cheap labour OT.
If confirmed,this really does raise some very serious questions about the quality,effectiveness and possibly the true nature of our union representation :shock: It's not a confused issue, it's not a minor one,you can't overlook it FFS.
More of a Tsunami than a ripple if you can verify :Very Happy :Very Happy
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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If this is correct well done whitemoor66. :Applause :Applause :Applause
Like the others, would like to see details of the ET ruling. If it sets a legal
precedent it will mean RM's plans for a part time disposable workforce without
rights to decent sickness/annual leave and pensions are dead in the water.
And best wishes to you in whatever you're doing now. Hope they treat you better
than RM.

Add: Wouldn't be at all surprised if RM takes it to Appeal though.
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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As others have said well done and good luck.
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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Well done mate!!
Again, all the very best.
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Re: Royal Mail and the one hour contact

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Fantastic news bud, if you are not already in new employment, you should be shoe-horned into top job @ CWU, cos the feckers who are there now are a waste of space.
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