Si67 wrote:Hi Bandit..
They DEFINATELY wont time the round ive tried that one with complete confidence!! They are really provoking me at the moment.. I really lost it this morning.. Im generally laid back type of guy! But I have got quite a temper when anyone FINALLY pushes me.. Had to go outside to calm down this morning!! I shouldnt have to put up with that every day!! Rep suggested I put in a grievance.. Wot do you lot think?? good move or bad????
Hi yes put a grievance in,send it to your HR unit that's what we do and i really do understand what you are going through,managers can be a pain that's a fact,i have been dealing with the same situation at work today,the manager not being to bright just like's to think he is,he's in for a shock his own manager is going to interview him tomorrow about the problem but be under no illusion it's not stopping there,my advice don't take the rubbish lying down go through the channels to deal with it,best of luck!
Thanks for support.. Looks like its time to fight back and stand my ground..
Si67 wrote:Hi Bandit..
They DEFINATELY wont time the round ive tried that one with complete confidence!! They are really provoking me at the moment.. I really lost it this morning.. Im generally laid back type of guy! But I have got quite a temper when anyone FINALLY pushes me.. Had to go outside to calm down this morning!! I shouldnt have to put up with that every day!! Rep suggested I put in a grievance.. Wot do you lot think?? good move or bad????
Hi yes put a grievance in,send it to your HR unit that's what we do and i really do understand what you are going through,managers can be a pain that's a fact,i have been dealing with the same situation at work today,the manager not being to bright just like's to think he is,he's in for a shock his own manager is going to interview him tomorrow about the problem but be under no illusion it's not stopping there,my advice don't take the rubbish lying down go through the channels to deal with it,best of luck!
Thanks for support.. Looks like its time to fight back and stand my ground..
If a manager keeps getting at you about claiming overtime on your delivery ,saying things like your dragging your feet or the other( roadrunner ) postman can do it quicker ask the line manager one simple question .Do you think i am defrauding overtime the manager normally says " im not saying that " to which you reply so what are you saying , normlly conversation finishes :lfo
Si67 wrote:Hi Bandit..
They DEFINATELY wont time the round ive tried that one with complete confidence!! They are really provoking me at the moment.. I really lost it this morning.. Im generally laid back type of guy! But I have got quite a temper when anyone FINALLY pushes me.. Had to go outside to calm down this morning!! I shouldnt have to put up with that every day!! Rep suggested I put in a grievance.. Wot do you lot think?? good move or bad????
Hi yes put a grievance in,send it to your HR unit that's what we do and i really do understand what you are going through,managers can be a pain that's a fact,i have been dealing with the same situation at work today,the manager not being to bright just like's to think he is,he's in for a shock his own manager is going to interview him tomorrow about the problem but be under no illusion it's not stopping there,my advice don't take the rubbish lying down go through the channels to deal with it,best of luck!
Thanks for support.. Looks like its time to fight back and stand my ground..
If a manager keeps getting at you about claiming overtime on your delivery ,saying things like your dragging your feet or the other( roadrunner ) postman can do it quicker ask the line manager one simple question .Do you think i am defrauding overtime the manager normally says " im not saying that " to which you reply so what are you saying , normlly conversation finishes :lfo
exactly , call his bluff put it on the spot , log everything , time , date , who , what , where , whom etc to back you up - take pictures with the mobile , "accidentally" switch on recording devices but with discretion as RM have been on You Tube too often .
Act like an amateur , you'll get treated like one , do it properly and these bullies sh** themselves . Vicious corrupt system .
Never left the playground , half of these ar**holes , but that's their problem ! .
Si67 wrote:Hi Bandit..
They DEFINATELY wont time the round ive tried that one with complete confidence!! They are really provoking me at the moment.. I really lost it this morning.. Im generally laid back type of guy! But I have got quite a temper when anyone FINALLY pushes me.. Had to go outside to calm down this morning!! I shouldnt have to put up with that every day!! Rep suggested I put in a grievance.. Wot do you lot think?? good move or bad????
Hi yes put a grievance in,send it to your HR unit that's what we do and i really do understand what you are going through,managers can be a pain that's a fact,i have been dealing with the same situation at work today,the manager not being to bright just like's to think he is,he's in for a shock his own manager is going to interview him tomorrow about the problem but be under no illusion it's not stopping there,my advice don't take the rubbish lying down go through the channels to deal with it,best of luck!
Thanks for support.. Looks like its time to fight back and stand my ground..
If a manager keeps getting at you about claiming overtime on your delivery ,saying things like your dragging your feet or the other( roadrunner ) postman can do it quicker ask the line manager one simple question .Do you think i am defrauding overtime the manager normally says " im not saying that " to which you reply so what are you saying , normlly conversation finishes :lfo
To which I would add the following when criticisms or allegations are made by your line manager consider writing and asking him or her to substantiate their criticisms and allegations in writing by providing substantive and quantifiable evidence. When he or she doesn't reply or fails to supply substantive or quantifiable evidence, write again pointing out that you've asked for justification and that he or she has chosen not to reply or has failed to justify their claim.
On the third occasion point out in writing that making allegations and refusing to substantiate them in writing or failing to provide substantive and quantifiable evidence is a form of HARASSMENT. The line manager's criticisms and allegations, which are usually founded on distortion, blame and fabrication, are an opinion and fabrication for the purpose of control.
In many instances the pen can indeed be mightier than the sword.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
Si67 wrote:Hi Bandit..
They DEFINATELY wont time the round ive tried that one with complete confidence!! They are really provoking me at the moment.. I really lost it this morning.. Im generally laid back type of guy! But I have got quite a temper when anyone FINALLY pushes me.. Had to go outside to calm down this morning!! I shouldnt have to put up with that every day!! Rep suggested I put in a grievance.. Wot do you lot think?? good move or bad????
Hi yes put a grievance in,send it to your HR unit that's what we do and i really do understand what you are going through,managers can be a pain that's a fact,i have been dealing with the same situation at work today,the manager not being to bright just like's to think he is,he's in for a shock his own manager is going to interview him tomorrow about the problem but be under no illusion it's not stopping there,my advice don't take the rubbish lying down go through the channels to deal with it,best of luck!
Thanks for support.. Looks like its time to fight back and stand my ground..
If a manager keeps getting at you about claiming overtime on your delivery ,saying things like your dragging your feet or the other( roadrunner ) postman can do it quicker ask the line manager one simple question .Do you think i am defrauding overtime the manager normally says " im not saying that " to which you reply so what are you saying , normlly conversation finishes :lfo
To which I would add the following when criticisms or allegations are made by your line manager consider writing and asking him or her to substantiate their criticisms and allegations in writing by providing substantive and quantifiable evidence. When he or she doesn't reply or fails to supply substantive or quantifiable evidence, write again pointing out that you've asked for justification and that he or she has chosen not to reply or has failed to justify their claim.
On the third occasion point out in writing that making allegations and refusing to substantiate them in writing or failing to provide substantive and quantifiable evidence is a form of HARASSMENT. The line manager's criticisms and allegations, which are usually founded on distortion, blame and fabrication, are an opinion and fabrication for the purpose of control.
In many instances the pen can indeed be mightier than the sword.
I agree re distortion , blame & fabrication Brother McGrew - but do RM do anything else ?
We have a classic 1 shot answer at the moment with managers that keep harping on about us taking the mick,
Can you put that in writing and please don't forget to sign it so we know who we have to come to or send an answer to,you can imagine how a manager re-acts to that one,it goes like this.
1.I don't have to answer to any of you.
2. I don't have to justify myself to you your only staff.
3.You do that on purpose you staff.
4.I suppose you think your cleaver or being smart!
stodgy88 wrote:cut-off monday ,left about 40mins work in office ,still there tuesday,had to take it tuesday,for no extra pay,cut off wednesday ,good as told will be there for me tomorrow,if i was asked by customers why they got no mail monday but piles tuesday could i have told them the truth or would i have been in bother,whats the official stance
Every Letter Every Day, the USO agreement shall i go on. Report this Manager to your Branch Secretary, you never know this could be another 30k RM could save by sacking him/her.
"ever get the feeling you've been cheated" John Lydon
stodgy88 wrote:cut-off monday ,left about 40mins work in office ,still there tuesday,had to take it tuesday,for no extra pay,cut off wednesday ,good as told will be there for me tomorrow,if i was asked by customers why they got no mail monday but piles tuesday could i have told them the truth or would i have been in bother,whats the official stance
i once had a customer come to me and ask why they had no mail for 2 days (due to cut ofs not being covered ) i happened to have the DOM private phone number so i gave him it and the Doms name . unsurprisingly the next day i was taken into his office and given a bollocking and told under no circumcises should i ever give out his name and number, i wonder why??
That depends on which private number you gave out: If it was a direct line to his work phone, then nice one! If it was his own mobile phone, then he's every right to be angry. That would be disgraceful.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
bandit650 wrote:We have a classic 1 shot answer at the moment with managers that keep harping on about us taking the mick,
Can you put that in writing and please don't forget to sign it so we know who we have to come to or send an answer to,you can imagine how a manager re-acts to that one,it goes like this.
1.I don't have to answer to any of you.
2. I don't have to justify myself to you your only staff.
3.You do that on purpose you staff.
4.I suppose you think your cleaver or being smart!
Or " My right to manage " , " Our right to manage " & " I will not be dictated to by the CWU " , a bit ? backward
stodgy88 wrote:cut-off monday ,left about 40mins work in office ,still there tuesday,had to take it tuesday,for no extra pay,cut off wednesday ,good as told will be there for me tomorrow,if i was asked by customers why they got no mail monday but piles tuesday could i have told them the truth or would i have been in bother,whats the official stance
i once had a customer come to me and ask why they had no mail for 2 days (due to cut ofs not being covered ) i happened to have the DOM private phone number so i gave him it and the Doms name . unsurprisingly the next day i was taken into his office and given a bollocking and told under no circumcises should i ever give out his name and number, i wonder why??
That depends on which private number you gave out: If it was a direct line to his work phone, then nice one! If it was his own mobile phone, then he's every right to be angry. That would be disgraceful.
it was the mobile he used for work,as he never in his office to answer his office phone it always go's straight to voice mail
In that case, nice one! I like your style. I wonder how long it'll be, before he changes the number.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
Well out of order allowing a customer to speak directly to a DOM - DOM's are answerable to nobody, definitely not the customers they are meant to serve, and should never have to face the real world outside of their offices.
a few weeks back we had a guy go sick on sat there were 8 managers out here as im in a sub and they left alot of mail and packets it was back hol so comes tuesday the guy cam in as you can understand he was not very happy and all the manager had to say they were gray areas lol but if we were to live 1 just 1 letter in our frame they will go nuts its a f***ing joke!!!!
I wonder how long it'll be, before he changes the number. 