gerardy wrote:Hi in my office we had no union rep for a while so no'one was involved in the resources meetings, as a result there was no figures put on the board about 50:50 share scheme for the savings made in the office through lapsed duties and using part-timers to cover full-time posts.
Nothing new there but since our managers keep telling us we are one off, if not the best run office in the area I was shocked to say the least when I was informed this morning that the office was £52000 over budget and we were not getting any bonuses.
How do we challenge this, and what does the union say about this as aparently very few places are getting the bonus.
How are so many not getting anything and yet the business is doing so well.
It all depends on the budget set to the DOM by his Cluster or sector manger!!!!!!!!
Dont assume because your office is over budget that the amount of hours used to run it was too many.
RML dont want to pay out so they set impossible budgets, that comrades is the true problem!!!!
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Who really cares about a 'bonus' that can be created or destroyed by the management, what I want is a rise in the basic pay (or a reduction in the working week) plus I'd like to see OT payments being improved (and the PT's getting the full OT rate as soon as the go over their contracted hours not the current scheme that means that before any PT who does OT must work 40 hours before they get the increased rate).
Agree 100% with this - i had to go from 40 hrs to 30 hrs to get a transfer, first time i did some OT and saw that it was being paid at standard rate i went ballistic.. Spoke to the rep at the time saying that as my contract was 30 hrs, any OT over that should be paid at OT rates - he agreed but said that basically the union had fcuked up. As i was doing a FT duty most weeks, was booking 2 " UP HOURS " every day to bring me up to 40, although the first few weeks i hadnt realised i could do this and was just booking to the times i finished, so on Mondays & Tuesdays when finished earlier was costing myself money.
Back up to 40 hr contract now thankfully, but it used to pi$$ me off when i was doing 40 hrs most weeks, and then being paid for 30 hrs on annual leave, and picking up 200 quid
'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,' ( Liam Byrne MP )
I see there are still one or two in the "stupid club" here - why on earth would anyone want a 40 hour contract for say £5 an hour when you could get a 30 hour contract and be paid the extra 10 hours @ £5 + - lets get sensible. I had buy down 3 years ago and not for one second did I think I was going to be paid more per hour after 25 hrs
dvbuk55 wrote:I see there are still one or two in the "stupid club" here - why on earth would anyone want a 40 hour contract for say £5 an hour when you could get a 30 hour contract and be paid the extra 10 hours @ £5 + - lets get sensible. I had buy down 3 years ago and not for one second did I think I was going to be paid more per hour after 25 hrs
OT should never be used to make up the wages, it should be used in cases of emergency only, this thing with RM and their bringing people in on 1 hour contracts and then making up their wages to 40 hours with OT is just wrong and I think that paying OT rate as soon as you go over you contracted hours would force RM to offer more FT contracts. The argument that people would stay PT just to make more in OT is, I think, very short sighted, the more automation that RM introduce the less OT there will be.
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dvbuk55 wrote:I see there are still one or two in the "stupid club" here - why on earth would anyone want a 40 hour contract for say £5 an hour when you could get a 30 hour contract and be paid the extra 10 hours @ £5 + - lets get sensible. I had buy down 3 years ago and not for one second did I think I was going to be paid more per hour after 25 hrs
Why on earth did the union and us all not see that paying a standard rate for O/T till the full 40 hours would only lead royalmail into the partime culture and the reduction too the point of stupidity of ONE HOUR CONTRACTS!.
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:The bonus you're not getting is the 50/50 and the local bonus, the national bonus is a seperate thing (£200) and as Belial meant to say 'If you believe the management then that's really ' NEVER believe anything a manager tells you .
dvbuk55 wrote:I see there are still one or two in the "stupid club" here - why on earth would anyone want a 40 hour contract for say £5 an hour when you could get a 30 hour contract and be paid the extra 10 hours @ £5 + - lets get sensible. I had buy down 3 years ago and not for one second did I think I was going to be paid more per hour after 25 hrs
Why on earth did the union and us all not see that paying a standard rate for O/T till the full 40 hours would only lead royalmail into the partime culture and the reduction too the point of stupidity of ONE HOUR CONTRACTS!.
That's not the only problem though - it's the ludicously low increment for actually working overtime. It was something like £0.70p an hour more after tax etc.- yeah sign me up scotty.
Well we are now all in the same boat as all the BONUS schemes have ended for all and as such we are all giving the management a huge bonus of all our own backs DO NOT AGREE TOO ANY OFFICE SAVINGS OR REVISIONS.
dvbuk55 wrote:I see there are still one or two in the "stupid club" here - why on earth would anyone want a 40 hour contract for say £5 an hour when you could get a 30 hour contract and be paid the extra 10 hours @ £5 + - lets get sensible. I had buy down 3 years ago and not for one second did I think I was going to be paid more per hour after 25 hrs
Think you have missed a crucial point here bud, someone on a PT contract is not guaranteed any overtime....
Leave your coat in the stupid club on the way out...
'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,' ( Liam Byrne MP )
No one is guaranteed overtime no matter what contract you're on 1 hour through to 40, that's crucial - unless of course your office is different to the rest of Royal Mail.
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Worth thinking about your pension as well,if your considering a buy down.
i know it seems laughable at the moment,but given it's now built up on
a career average,it could be short term gain,long term pain.
robd wrote:Worth thinking about your pension as well,if your considering a buy down.
i know it seems laughable at the moment,but given it's now built up on
a career average,it could be short term gain,long term pain.
Absolutely. You do really need to be at the back end of your service to gain - looked at another way you only have to serve 2 years on PT hours and then you can return to FT hours so in effect you are being paid NOT to work for 2 years, though what the chances are of returning to a FT vacancy in this climate..................... still who knows what the next couple of years will bring?
We were told at our last WTLL, that the 50/50 (or zero/zero as we call it!) scheme has now ended. So as we haven't qualified for it this time, we never WILL. Not that we ever HAVE had anything from it.
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k979aaa wrote:Well we are now all in the same boat as all the BONUS schemes have ended for all and as such we are all giving the management a huge bonus of all our own backs DO NOT AGREE TOO ANY OFFICE SAVINGS OR REVISIONS.
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