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SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
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barkingdog
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SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
Our new DOM has informed us that our Workplace Coach will be testing everyone as to their accuracy, etc for local sorting, its not his idea but a new initiative by the business to monitor and improve efficiency. We are not to worry as the results will not be held against anyone if they fail to meet the required pass standard. Can anyone shed light on possible reasons for this new initiative, is there a reason for this that he is not being totally honest about?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
Not aware of any new schemes but check out the link below which is the Individual Performance Standards Agreement
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Handout eight says (but check all the others in that post as well)
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11602" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Handout eight says (but check all the others in that post as well)
CAPABILITY CHECK FOR OPERATIONAL GRADE
Following the introduction of Individual Performance Standards, managers and employees should have a clear understanding of what the standards are and what is expected of them. Therefore there will not be a requirement to carry out formal performance checks on fully trained employees, giving managers the opportunity to focus on their principal leadership skills.
The only exception to this will be when an individual’s capability to meet the standard is brought into question due to the length of time they have been away from the task they are due to perform, e.g.: the individual has been performing other duties for a year and the use of a formal one minute check may indicate to the manager that they may require support or refresher training. Where a check is necessary in these circumstances, they should be carried out in the following way.
Please note: this is the only formal process for checking the work rate in respect of capability, which is acceptable both to RMSD and the CWU.
1.The individual is observed working below normal standard.
2.The Manager should approach the individual discreetly and discuss informally with the individual whether they are having any difficulties that are preventing them from working at the normal performance level.
3.Where appropriate carry out a formal one minute check that is applicable to the task being performed
4.Before starting each check, the manager should inform the employee what is happening, i.e. inform the individual when the check has started and that the number of items sorted in a one-minute period will be counted.
5.They should also make sure an adequate head of work is available and that no other known issues are likely to impact on the individual’s performance.
6.On completion of the check, the manager should again take the individual aside and tell them how they have performed. It is vital that this is handled sensitively.
7.Managers should take the opportunity to congratulate the employee where the standards are met.
Points to remember
If you feel an individual’s capability to meet the standard is brought into question;
Due notice should be taken if the employee is new to the area, a reserve, a triallist, a casual or perhaps on a special duty where allowances should be made.
Managers need to have a frank discussion, but be sensitive to the potential reaction and focus on helping employees to improve.
If there are concerns on either side about accuracy, a P40 check should be run as soon as possible.
It is vital to continue to support employees through coaching / counselling / additional training as appropriate.
Managers should be aware of the full range of support services available through the line manager, advice from the EHS on health/welfare issues and employment policy managers for personnel procedures.
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padraig1965
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
I had a meeting yesterday it is coming in,the new weekly indoor prep rates,IPS.
Bonnie Scotland
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padraig1965
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
linkinpark wrote:Our REP has told us ALL to fail these stupid tests as they are only doing em to B&H as well a justifying there new super duper rates of sorting across the board so they can cut even more hours out of the office!
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Well said by your REP fight all the way.
Bonnie Scotland
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padraig1965
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
At the meeting they said no person would be taking down the conduct code.Aye rightlinkinpark wrote:His words he "has never heard of anyone being sacked for failling and they wont want to start doing it by sacking the whole office"padraig1965 wrote:linkinpark wrote:Our REP has told us ALL to fail these stupid tests as they are only doing em to B&H as well a justifying there new super duper rates of sorting across the board so they can cut even more hours out of the office!
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Bonnie Scotland
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RTI
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
we had a meeting a couple of weeks ago and amongst other things something about "100 bsi???" was mentioned (to improve ifficiency). looks like the master plan is being rolled out across the country.
“If you can deliver a letter to Scotland in a day for 39p, take it yourself.” - Jack Dee
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not me
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
why the fcuk are WP coaches testing their fellow posties?
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RTI
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
well they can coach my arse. im rti and im on a different walk every week, i havent been on the ips for about 7 months. so they wil get a shock when they see how "efficient" i sort.
thats the managers buzzword at the minuite "efficiency"
thats the managers buzzword at the minuite "efficiency"
“If you can deliver a letter to Scotland in a day for 39p, take it yourself.” - Jack Dee
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Mr Blonde
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
Bring in sorting tests, some people need sorting. I swear the same old faces do their hour and half every day and it consists of standing around talking, drinking coffee and laughing whilst tossing the occasion letter or packet into the fitting. It doesn't matter if theres stuff left at the end cos all those that have been sorting properly will be rounded up and told to help them clear.
Anyone who fails their test three times should be reduced to part time and part timers given a chance to go full time in their place.
Anyone who fails their test three times should be reduced to part time and part timers given a chance to go full time in their place.
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IWW Fellow Worker
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
Because they're stooges.custard wrote:why the fcuk are WP coaches testing their fellow posties?
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DGP1
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
Mr Blonde wrote:Bring in sorting tests, some people need sorting. I swear the same old faces do their hour and half every day and it consists of standing around talking, drinking coffee and laughing whilst tossing the occasion letter or packet into the fitting. It doesn't matter if theres stuff left at the end cos all those that have been sorting properly will be rounded up and told to help them clear.
Anyone who fails their test three times should be reduced to part time and part timers given a chance to go full time in their place.
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krussel
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
[quote="Mr Blonde"]Bring in sorting tests, some people need sorting. I swear the same old faces do their hour and half every day and it consists of standing around talking, drinking coffee and laughing whilst tossing the occasion letter or packet into the fitting. It doesn't matter if theres stuff left at the end cos all those that have been sorting properly will be rounded up and told to help them clear.
Glad this is not just my office then.
We do at most about an hour ips and the NON sorters drink coffee and smoke on the bank
Glad this is not just my office then.
We do at most about an hour ips and the NON sorters drink coffee and smoke on the bank
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BELIAL
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
Can't see the problem, you're stuck there for eight hours anyway, if it don't get done,too badkrussel wrote:Mr Blonde wrote:Bring in sorting tests, some people need sorting. I swear the same old faces do their hour and half every day and it consists of standing around talking, drinking coffee and laughing whilst tossing the occasion letter or packet into the fitting. It doesn't matter if theres stuff left at the end cos all those that have been sorting properly will be rounded up and told to help them clear.
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We do at most about an hour ips and the NON sorters drink coffee and smoke on the bank
Bye
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rhino49
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
If it's anything like our office there will only be a few tested - the ones they want to put pressure on !!!We were told that all sorters would be tested in order to establish a workplace "average" that forecasts could be based on and to use as a platform for improvement through training. It stopped after about 12 and people who did not perform "well" were left in no doubt about it. The tests were a full frame prep but you should remember that the only agreed testing is the one minute test for all the various fixtures used and any others are not valid.barkingdog wrote:Our new DOM has informed us that our Workplace Coach will be testing everyone as to their accuracy, etc for local sorting, its not his idea but a new initiative by the business to monitor and improve efficiency. We are not to worry as the results will not be held against anyone if they fail to meet the required pass standard. Can anyone shed light on possible reasons for this new initiative, is there a reason for this that he is not being totally honest about?
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Big Daz
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Re: SORTING TESTS AT DELIVERY OFFICE
You still have a prep rate of 16 in your patch Rhino?