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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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1.25 Kg it is then. Cheers woof woof.


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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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harvey wrote:can anyone tell me if there is a national agreement on the size of packets your supposed to take if you are on a cycle delivery. we are constantly being made to take larger and larger packets and are told by management it is the national agreement.
Dont know if geo-route is happening in your DO. If it is why are you carrying any in the first place????? ffs, timings with geo-route is for letters, it does not take recordeds, specials or packets into consideration they are extra!!!!! :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :no no
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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I totally agree with having some kind of universal rule to packet sizes for cycles etc. I use a bike for my walk, and the size of packet they make me take are just getting bigger and bigger! I tried putting , what i thought was a fair sized, but VERY heavy packet on the van at xmas and was told by the driver that he wouldnt take it because he thought the box was smaller than a shoe box! It weighed more than the 4 mail bundles for that road combined!! But he wouldnt have it! just because a box is a bit smaller, it doesnt mean it doesnt weigh a ton!!
Ive regularly had the drivers bring parcels back to me just cuz they thought it was slightly too small. Big Amazon packets, poster tubes, QVC boxes, stuff off ebay etc all these things add up, but you can only carry so much!
I cant even break them down and take them a few at a time as I have to take all of my parcels with me for a very large first section, as there is no pouch box, or bag drop in the area. Some days i therefore have to carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

Post by not me »

this is the problem
theres foot posties who take the piss
and drivers who take the piss
my driver once did the trick of dumping a huge packet in my pouch box.
i barely fitted in the box because it was a large flat type packet
he put it in the wrong box as well so i dead walked back to attempt delivery
well the next day i got a grip of him and told him what would happen if he did that again to me.
as i told him he is not there to dictate what i take out.
if he felt a packet is a postie packet then he can check with a manager (i had never seen this packet before)
problem in our office is it more often fallsi n the drivers favour. i say this as someone who does foot & van duties
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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Quiet but strong wrote:carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
Just out of interest, what do you do with them when you can't get rid of them?
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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custard wrote:this is the problem
theres foot posties who take the piss
and drivers who take the piss
my driver once did the trick of dumping a huge packet in my pouch box.
i barely fitted in the box because it was a large flat type packet
he put it in the wrong box as well so i dead walked back to attempt delivery
well the next day i got a grip of him and told him what would happen if he did that again to me.
as i told him he is not there to dictate what i take out.
if he felt a packet is a postie packet then he can check with a manager (i had never seen this packet before)
problem in our office is it more often fallsi n the drivers favour. i say this as someone who does foot & van duties
I would have just left it in the box. If no one had mentioned it to me, I'd just of assumed it was there for someone else. Also, a driver doesn't know how many other packets you are taking out. You could have 5 or 55. It makes a difference to what you can take, not just the size of each individual packet.
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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NewPostieUK wrote:
Quiet but strong wrote:carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
Just out of interest, what do you do with them when you can't get rid of them?
put them in a big bin and say to the kids lucky dip all hands in
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

Post by wolfie citizen smith »

harvey wrote:can anyone tell me if there is a national agreement on the size of packets your supposed to take if you are on a cycle delivery. we are constantly being made to take larger and larger packets and are told by management it is the national agreement.
Put a grievance in stating that you believe managers are expecting you to take out over and above your templated allowance for packets on delivery
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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POSTMAN wrote:Too much in-fighting in the job,too much i'm allright jack/jill feck the rest of ya. :d'oh!
Never a truer word said.
This is one of our biggest problems as a union ,the 'i'm alright Jack' attitude of members.
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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NewPostieUK wrote:
Quiet but strong wrote:carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
Just out of interest, what do you do with them when you can't get rid of them?
Nothing, i just have to carry them with me until i have finished the whole of the first section and eventually get to the one and only (VERY SMALL!!) pouch box further up on my route. But even then there may not be room to leave them, as it is very small and can only just about fit 2 average sized pouches in there. If ever there is a very heavy day i normally have to have my bags dropped off in stages which then leads to me hanging around waiting for van drivers to bring the mail for the last section.
it would be a lot easier if some of the bulkier items could go on the van, as i just dont have the room to put them anywhere.
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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woofwoof wrote:
NewPostieUK wrote:
Quiet but strong wrote:carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
Just out of interest, what do you do with them when you can't get rid of them?
put them in a big bin and say to the kids lucky dip all hands in

Hey yeah mate that sounds interesting! ( Just kidding!) Mind you, i have to be on my toes when im delivering! some of the kids on my walk always try and have a grab at the panniers my bike etc, when they are on their lunch time from school, when ive parked it up! Good job i never leave anything in there!!!!
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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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Quiet but strong wrote:
NewPostieUK wrote:
Quiet but strong wrote:carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
Just out of interest, what do you do with them when you can't get rid of them?
Nothing, i just have to carry them with me until i have finished the whole of the first section and eventually get to the one and only (VERY SMALL!!) pouch box further up on my route. But even then there may not be room to leave them, as it is very small and can only just about fit 2 average sized pouches in there. If ever there is a very heavy day i normally have to have my bags dropped off in stages which then leads to me hanging around waiting for van drivers to bring the mail for the last section.
it would be a lot easier if some of the bulkier items could go on the van, as i just dont have the room to put them anywhere.
So when they fit, you leave them in the box. Does a driver go and pick them up? Who do you inform that you've left stuff, your manager? Is he happy with this?

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Re: packet sizes for cycle deliveries

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NewPostieUK wrote:
Quiet but strong wrote:
NewPostieUK wrote:
Quiet but strong wrote:carry these big heavy parcels up and down about 4 different , long roads( Including hills i might add!) before i can get rid of them, if at all!!!
Just out of interest, what do you do with them when you can't get rid of them?
Nothing, i just have to carry them with me until i have finished the whole of the first section and eventually get to the one and only (VERY SMALL!!) pouch box further up on my route. But even then there may not be room to leave them, as it is very small and can only just about fit 2 average sized pouches in there. If ever there is a very heavy day i normally have to have my bags dropped off in stages which then leads to me hanging around waiting for van drivers to bring the mail for the last section.
it would be a lot easier if some of the bulkier items could go on the van, as i just dont have the room to put them anywhere.
So when they fit, you leave them in the box. Does a driver go and pick them up? Who do you inform that you've left stuff, your manager? Is he happy with this?

I

I lock them in the poch box with the key. until ive finished the other sections yes! I dont tell anyone ive left them there! The only ones i keep with me all the time are special deliveries etc that have to be signed for! I was told to do that by numerous people when i started, and the managers dont seem to think there is anything wrong with it. If i couldnt leave them in the pouch box i really would be carrying about 3 times the weight im only supposed to carry, as i havent anywhere else to put them!! MY round has a lot of bigger, 'posh' houses and therefore i have quite a lot of parcels regularly on a daily basis. Sometimes the van driver will take them back to the depot, but it all depends on which van driver it is at the time, otherwise i just have to take anything i cant deliver back when ive completely finished the whole walk!