Office savings

[apple]

Due to have a meeting some time soon in our office and savings due to the drop off in mail
one of the proposals from management was basically to bank hours! don't know if that is still a goer or not to be honest
the new one is for the towns to be taken off IPS and get a van and do the packets for there delivery then come back finish prep and deliver
the rurals will be left to sort IPS then take the vans off the towns when they come back

My thoughts on this are what are the packet guys going to do? aren't we supposed to be at the stage where were not supposed to talking to management about savings but referring them to HQ [tried to find the letter from bob gibson i think it was but failed]

have a union rep, his attitude is we have to do something because of the drop in mail

i think that if they get the packets done by the towns then they will be no need for a packet duty as such and as these are linked with the collections they will get rid of the lot, the collections will be done by another office

any thoughts as to what is going on where you are, what do you think?

[k979aaa]

Due to have a meeting some time soon in our office and savings due to the drop off in mail
one of the proposals from management was basically to bank hours! don't know if that is still a goer or not to be honest
the new one is for the towns to be taken off IPS and get a van and do the packets for there delivery then come back finish prep and deliver
the rurals will be left to sort IPS then take the vans off the towns when they come back

My thoughts on this are what are the packet guys going to do? aren't we supposed to be at the stage where were not supposed to talking to management about savings but referring them to HQ [tried to find the letter from bob gibson i think it was but failed]

have a union rep, his attitude is we have to do something because of the drop in mail

i think that if they get the packets done by the towns then they will be no need for a packet duty as such and as these are linked with the collections they will get rid of the lot, the collections will be done by another office

any thoughts as to what is going on where you are, what do you think?

The union HQ has an embargo on change till royalmail let the union HQ know their buisness plan!.

[apple]

ye i thought that, thought i saw the letter from i think bob gibson but can;t find it, gave the rep an excerpt from a bit on here just said it was a load of shite, i had to tell him who bob gibson was

[k979aaa]

ye i thought that, thought i saw the letter from i think bob gibson but can;t find it, gave the rep an excerpt from a bit on here just said it was a load of shite, i had to tell him who bob gibson was

Sound's like your rep is bent as a two bob note!. I will find the LTB for you but can not cut and paste!.

[woofwoof]

this time next year alll deliverys WILL be planned on 2 postmen in a van doing packets and walk

[apple]

this time next year alll deliverys WILL be planned on 2 postmen in a van doing packets and walk

that well might be but seen as a few duties in our office are walk, break, packets, collection then this messes them up, we went that way so as to safeguard full time jobs

[mclovin]

this time next year alll deliverys WILL be planned on 2 postmen in a van doing packets and walk

Great, where are RM going to find another 20 vans for our office of 50?

[johnnyp]

Due to have a meeting some time soon in our office and savings due to the drop off in mail
one of the proposals from management was basically to bank hours! don't know if that is still a goer or not to be honest
the new one is for the towns to be taken off IPS and get a van and do the packets for there delivery then come back finish prep and deliver
the rurals will be left to sort IPS then take the vans off the towns when they come back

My thoughts on this are what are the packet guys going to do? aren't we supposed to be at the stage where were not supposed to talking to management about savings but referring them to HQ [tried to find the letter from bob gibson i think it was but failed]

have a union rep, his attitude is we have to do something because of the drop in mail

i think that if they get the packets done by the towns then they will be no need for a packet duty as such and as these are linked with the collections they will get rid of the lot, the collections will be done by another office

any thoughts as to what is going on where you are, what do you think?

Dingos quote

John there was 140 people at the meeting not bad for a tuesday afternoon.

We believe we needed the meeting cause as you say we are fast appoaching the biggest dispute we have ever had and that is the final agreement on modenasation. Lets face it pay and mod was a fudge deal Royal Mail wanted far more and I speak to senior managers ie above DSM and MCM level and they scream they thnk the CWU took the money and strictched them up. In the word of those managers they say we have only really got phase 3 into the areas where they believed they would anyway.

The areas they need to get it in to maximise savings they havnt got any change from and have little prospect of doing so in the future fact.

With regards to savings there was a conference call last monday of divsional reps and that reconfirmed the national policy that no savings should be given up in any office in the cwu until we get an overall modenstation deal which covers the unions aspritations of a sww , a committement to a full time job and improvements in pay.

Royal Mail at this moment in time are desperate to make savings within the bussiness. They are trying every trick in the book whether thats trying to get offices to agree to savings by recuiting part timers to full time in return for further savings or allowing vrs within the office. But dont be fooled and dont be tricked Croziers idea of modensation is to cut jobs and serivices year in year out. More over Mark Higson`s strategy is based on the simple factory appoach which is that no office should cost any more per item then any other and thats why the new regional structures have been set up to introduce standard operating procudures.
At the meeting on Tuesday all unit reps were infromed by the London Divisonal Reps that a number of stage 3 disagreements were pending in London including in W1 , WC1 , EC1 -4 , E3 ,E13,E14 with a few others fast appoaching stage 3. If management decide to take executive action in any office in London then the whole of london will be balloted for strike action. This policy has been endorsed by the whole of London and its a policy which will be activited.

This fight is not about whether an indivudual office can get the right deal for them this year. This is about whether we have the right deal across the uk for the next 5 or 10 years in every unit in the country. Be in no doubt every office who takes the easy option of doing a deal on savings is making part times jobs in delivery more likely. It might take the pressure off of that office but it is betraying the rest of the membership who are standing firm.

It is time to stick together and fight. Its also time to forget pay and mod as if you continue to focus on that you will not be concentating on Royal Mail s more sinster proposals.

Those of us who acitivly opposed the way forward moved on and succesfull fought Royal Mail`s SDD proposal including leading the biggest unofficial strike since the miners which achieved the biggest pay rise in cwu history as well as introudcing the 5 day week meaning a protential 48 days more leave on average across Royal Mail.

Are you up for the fight as we in London are !!

[woofwoof]

ALL BIKES WILL NOT BE REPLACED] you will get a van or a trolley FACT

[k979aaa]

ye i thought that, thought i saw the letter from i think bob gibson but can;t find it, gave the rep an excerpt from a bit on here just said it was a load of shite, i had to tell him who bob gibson was

Sound's like your rep is bent as a two bob note!. I will find the LTB for you but can not cut and paste!.

It is LTB 960/08 ON THE CWU WEBSITE.

[apple]

thanks for that will go get it

[POSTMAN]

It's here if you can't get it.

cwu__1228832122_08LTB960.doc

[stokes11eg]

ALL BIKES WILL NOT BE REPLACED] you will get a van or a trolley FACT

Aye--Like the pouch boxes we've been waiting ten years for, believe it you like!!!