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Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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Re: Can Managers use own private cars for Patrols ??

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disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:Ring the coppers up when you spot one tailing you and say that theres a dodgy looking geezer following me and I think he`s after my mailbag. :dance
And the police will say they will investigate it as soon as they can, which will amount to interviewing you several hours later if they're not too busy.
:crazy:
Not true, one of the guys in my office reported a car following him and the police turned up in a few minutes to investigate (it was IB by the way).

If they have made it so obvious they were following what use would they be following real theives in RML?
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

Post by norfolk n chance »

we have an early warning system within our office.

we all have each others mobile number, as soon as a manager or an IB is spotted we spread the word by text :whistle

They do not like it when you keep waving at them either :wave :left:
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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islfor wrote:A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
If you've got nothing to hide, why worry?

When I go out on patrol, if I see a member of staff, I go over to them and ask if they are ok.
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SAD :sad:
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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What is the offical purpose of patrol and is it agreed with the CWU at national level. Also is it really needed, in this age of being more efficient it seems like a big waste of time.
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Re: Can Managers use own private cars for Patrols ??

Post by postie40 »

That's just what I did, I called the police when I knew damn well IB was on the lookout. They ended up getting arrested and I was called in office next morning lol 'I just said there was an old fart in a hi-vis vest following me :chuckle
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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DOM wrote:
islfor wrote:A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
If you've got nothing to hide, why worry?

When I go out on patrol, if I see a member of staff, I go over to them and ask if they are ok.
why should you go over to them to ask if they are ok ?
Are you concerned that pegasus have given them too much work ?
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DOM wrote:
islfor wrote:A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
If you've got nothing to hide, why worry?

When I go out on patrol, if I see a member of staff, I go over to them and ask if they are ok.
It's not a case of having anything to hide. It's insulting that a manager feels the need to be "looking over your shoulder". Why can't you show a bit more faith in your staff?
We have all come across one or two people who can't be bothered to work as hard as the rest of us. But they're a tiny minority. Why tar everyone with the same brush?

I realise that it isn't you personally, who is responsible for this policy. But surely you can appreciate how such monitoring adversley effects morale. :hmmmm
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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islfor wrote:A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
Morally it is wrong.

Legally its is not - Management have a duty of care to their employees and could use this as an excuse. For instance the manager above could have said "He looked to be struggling so I decided to watch him for a while, just in case he needed assistance" which may or may not be true but he can still use it as a reason to watch staff.

Being watched by Management makes me feel uncomfortable, untrusted and demotivated, however, as I know I am doing my best, know I am not breaking any rules and know in myself that I am an honest man, I know they won't find anything to get me on so I shrug if off and get on with my work.

Also to be honest overview by management is a lot tamer that in some jobs. Call centre staff regularly get critiqued on individual calls, and in some cases have management sitting next to them as they take calls. Now that is intimidating I know I worked in a call centre before I came to RM.
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

Post by harmony »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
islfor wrote:A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
Morally it is wrong.

Legally its is not - Management have a duty of care to their employees and could use this as an excuse. For instance the manager above could have said "He looked to be struggling so I decided to watch him for a while, just in case he needed assistance" which may or may not be true but he can still use it as a reason to watch staff.

Being watched by Management makes me feel uncomfortable, untrusted and demotivated, however, as I know I am doing my best, know I am not breaking any rules and know in myself that I am an honest man, I know they won't find anything to get me on so I shrug if off and get on with my work.

Also to be honest overview by management is a lot tamer that in some jobs. Call centre staff regularly get critiqued on individual calls, and in some cases have management sitting next to them as they take calls. Now that is intimidating I know I worked in a call centre before I came to RM.
''duty of care'' the manager and the postie concerned are not on speaking terms right now, and has allegedly been wrongly accused of things, a few times in the past!!.... :no no
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

Post by tiredwalker »

I wish mine would come out and watch me on delivery, they would realize why I can't get done on the hours they say. fat chance of that though!
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Re: Can Managers patrol in own cars ?

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harmony wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
islfor wrote:A manager had finished work one morning last week, and was driving home after signing off, he passed a postman still delivering he deliberately went round again to spy on him.....thats not right surely ?
Morally it is wrong.

Legally its is not - Management have a duty of care to their employees and could use this as an excuse. For instance the manager above could have said "He looked to be struggling so I decided to watch him for a while, just in case he needed assistance" which may or may not be true but he can still use it as a reason to watch staff.

Being watched by Management makes me feel uncomfortable, untrusted and demotivated, however, as I know I am doing my best, know I am not breaking any rules and know in myself that I am an honest man, I know they won't find anything to get me on so I shrug if off and get on with my work.

Also to be honest overview by management is a lot tamer that in some jobs. Call centre staff regularly get critiqued on individual calls, and in some cases have management sitting next to them as they take calls. Now that is intimidating I know I worked in a call centre before I came to RM.
''duty of care'' the manager and the postie concerned are not on speaking terms right now, and has allegedly been wrongly accused of things, a few times in the past!!.... :no no

like what ??? must be bad in your office then. sly manager s and all that :nana :nana