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shimmyrule
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mtsf- voluntary retiremnt etc

Post by shimmyrule »

Having a discussion in work with unit rep,he told me that 22 and 30 hour posties can get first option of vr because of - wait for it, -the inland revenue/tax man has intervened! :shock:

Say, 10 folk, in seniority from the top get vr, he says the inland rev/tax folk are not happy that these positions will be filled by part time staff, !!! (because its not saving money, or cutting jobs, its simply replacing one ft member with another)

First of all, i dont believe him, and secondly, i very much doubt the inland rev have anything to do with how royal mail and the cwu have agreed to select people for voluntary retirement.

Hope im right, as ive read the mtsf may 2007 agreement. :hmmmm
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Re: mtsf- voluntary retiremnt etc

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This is good info.Your rep is wrong.
dingo wrote:VRs are covered by the MTSF agreement. The fact is if there is a surplus and the need for VRS then the first indivudals who get asked is those ageed between 55 and 65 in senioirity order. Then after it is based on seniority order down but with a cap on those who are ageed between 50 and 54 who may leave on the basis on TMA by mutural concent. If this still does not remove the surplus then MTSF allows those who are aged between 50 and 54 to leave on full terms albeit it Royal Mail have started to stop this happening on the grounds of cost.

There is no agreement to allow just part time staff to go in front of full time. The only way this should happen if the revision is purely based on part timers. If it based on both full time and part time staff then management are breaking the National Agreement and a disagreement should be raised at Area Level and if neccesary to Divisonal level who can refer a point of principle to our repsective headquaters.

The CWU have not agreed any changes to the MTSF!
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Re: mtsf- voluntary retiremnt etc

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Just needed re assuring my good man :dance
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Re: mtsf- voluntary retiremnt etc

Post by bogstandard »

I agee with postman.
I would be inclined to keep an eye on my rep to see how what they've said plays out and who if anyone benefits.
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Re: mtsf- voluntary retiremnt etc

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The simple reason is it costs them less money to lay of a PT member of staff than a FT one.They will also pick people who have served less time than those with a long service record for the same reason.It's wrong I know, but that's what happened in my office.
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shimmyrule
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Re: mtsf- voluntary retiremnt etc

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well, i aint lettin it happen in my gaff :dance
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