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One week after Georoute has been implemented

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Big Daz
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

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stokes11eg wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Prep test we use 11 items a minute buts that the standard RM in my area have been using since before pegasus and hasnt been formally agreed by the CWU.

Delivery length pegasus is set to is 3hrs 15 mins.

Walking speed is 3.8 miles mph.

Attendance calls rate 1.7 % a national figure I belive as one of the branches took this to conference and its now offical CWU policy to re negotiate that figure higher.
:nana In our office, we are expected to do over twenty five letters per minute oour own frames, and a good few more on the I.P.S.,how come other offices seem to do far less/


Simple

2 different tests one is the 25 letters in a minute the other covers all elements of your prep thus bringing the 25 figure lower.
greynut
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

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stokes11eg wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Prep test we use 11 items a minute buts that the standard RM in my area have been using since before pegasus and hasnt been formally agreed by the CWU.

Delivery length pegasus is set to is 3hrs 15 mins.

Walking speed is 3.8 miles mph.

Attendance calls rate 1.7 % a national figure I belive as one of the branches took this to conference and its now offical CWU policy to re negotiate that figure higher.
:nana In our office, we are expected to do over twenty five letters per minute oour own frames, and a good few more on the I.P.S.,how come other offices seem to do far less/
We have to do 45
trythat
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

Post by trythat »

Big Daz wrote:88% call ratePrep test we use 11 items a minute buts that the standard RM in my area have been using since before pegasus and hasnt been formally agreed by the CWU.

Delivery length pegasus is set to is 3hrs 15 mins.

Walking speed is 3.8 miles mph.

Attendance calls rate 1.7 % a national figure I belive as one of the branches took this to conference and its now offical CWU policy to re negotiate that figure higher.

88% call rate
That I believe is standard, apart from the prep rate, is that a rate for IPS or for your fitting?
We've just had part of our office Geo'd, and from what I can see and from asking people, it's just not working, I even heard that a manager took out 1 road that was said to take 25mins by Geo, and it took him 45mins, so we've got a problem somewhere, and that was a fairly flat area.
The other 2 parts of the office are of course being worked on, but as they are really hilly, I'm not all that confident at all. We're on the 3rd week, so it will be interesting to see what happens at the end of the 6 week revue, TBH, I think they need to go back and start again.

Out of interest did you manage to have any jobs tested properly, or were your deliveries already somewhere right?
Big Daz
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

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11 items is the prep test from first letetr in the fram right through to all bags packed/prep fully completed. Many posters on RMC have higher rate but ive yet to come across anyone with a lower rate, which makes me worry that RM may turn round and say they are pushing it higher.

We had one delivery tested post pegasus which came out as 4 hours so it has been made smaller and the high st/market square duty has manged to absorb a bit of that round and our sole 20 hour duty also took on a bit. The 4 hour delivery has also had its IPS reduced by 30 mins.

Deliveries have pretty much turned out alright, however we delayed our repick so im waitng to see how the mbrs get on once veryone is in place on their new duty and got used to it before making final judgement which I suppose comes at the 12 week review in Feb. We put 2 deliveries back in that were collapsed on a daily basis as part of the poxy £3 a week payrise in return for savings deal we had that HQ never put to the vote. Then we took 3 deliveries out giving a net loss of just one delivery.

Today I started on time if not a few mins late and completed within my 6 hour day.

IPS has been finishing early the last few days which is worrying when RM cluster DOM told my DOM that he has to make a 61 hour saving, on top of the 74 hours pegasus is planned to remove. We only have 80 hours indoor duty wise and thats 2 x RLE duties so who would do the RLE work if 61 hour savings was made is beyond me.
harmony
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

Post by harmony »

Big Daz wrote:
Phantom wrote:Well this is a disaster from the start, w/c 12th Jan this has been introduced and its simply not working!!!

Sorting is and other indoor working are completely flawed, cut offs are on a mass scale. I can see this continuing for many many months to come.

What criteria are being used?

Is my D.O really going to turn out to be the most successfull pegasus revison out of those that are represented on this site?

It all went relativley smoothly a few hiccups teething problems but then one expects that with any revision. You implement and fine tune. Fine tuning has taken place resign has finally finished training has commenced and everything seems to just the way it was before.

Only change really is the whippets/early starters cant go out early anymore they have to wait untill all prep has completed so missorts can connect. They dont like it and they moan at me but tough luck on them im afraid to say. Why they dont have a extra half hour in bed is beyond me, far better than standing about with nothing to do. Is getting home for Fern and Philip really that important? My view is simple, the customer has paid for their mail to be delivered, customers want to recieve their mail when its due. They should not go without some of their mail simply because posties want to start early.
daz : you mentioned ''resigns'' with the geo-route revision you had ,how did this come about?
it was mentioned in our DO from the town guy's to which the answer was... 'has to be 30% of the office wanting change!!... is this the case or not? :pray :pray
Big Daz
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

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Simple answer harmony

Deliveries had significant replotting, some that were FT became PT and some that were PT became FT and we moved from a two week rotate to fixed duties.

Two rounds back in, 3 taken out


All that meant over a third of duties incurred major change, those duties that didnt incurr MC didnt have to go in the pot but some duty holders chose to put their job in the repick and picked something better than what they held before.
trythat
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

Post by trythat »

Big Daz wrote:11 items is the prep test from first letetr in the fram right through to all bags packed/prep fully completed. Many posters on RMC have higher rate but ive yet to come across anyone with a lower rate, which makes me worry that RM may turn round and say they are pushing it higher.

We had one delivery tested post pegasus which came out as 4 hours so it has been made smaller and the high st/market square duty has manged to absorb a bit of that round and our sole 20 hour duty also took on a bit. The 4 hour delivery has also had its IPS reduced by 30 mins.

Deliveries have pretty much turned out alright, however we delayed our repick so im waitng to see how the mbrs get on once veryone is in place on their new duty and got used to it before making final judgement which I suppose comes at the 12 week review in Feb. We put 2 deliveries back in that were collapsed on a daily basis as part of the poxy £3 a week payrise in return for savings deal we had that HQ never put to the vote. Then we took 3 deliveries out giving a net loss of just one delivery.

Today I started on time if not a few mins late and completed within my 6 hour day.

IPS has been finishing early the last few days which is worrying when RM cluster DOM told my DOM that he has to make a 61 hour saving, on top of the 74 hours pegasus is planned to remove. We only have 80 hours indoor duty wise and thats 2 x RLE duties so who would do the RLE work if 61 hour savings was made is beyond me.
Cheers, thats all helpful, you need all the ammo you can use, when Georoute is bought in.
harmony
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Re: One week after Georoute has been implemented

Post by harmony »

Big Daz wrote:Simple answer harmony

Deliveries had significant replotting, some that were FT became PT and some that were PT became FT and we moved from a two week rotate to fixed duties.

Two rounds back in, 3 taken out


All that meant over a third of duties incurred major change, those duties that didnt incurr MC didnt have to go in the pot but some duty holders chose to put their job in the repick and picked something better than what they held before.
cheers daz !!