Truth or just rumour

[zola4ever]

I have been told by more than a few work mates, that the DOMs are on a bonus if they can get rid of full time staff via the conduct code.Anyone else hear this ?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Well that is a big Conspiracy Theory. But TBH I think its rumour mill gone into overdrive.

I suspect that the DOMs are on a bonus if they can hit RMs budget and perhaps also if they meet any target for reduction in their Units hours. When some DOMs don't make a PT worker up to FT when a FT leaves to help meet this target, this only adds to the suspicion every one has.

Also I honestly don't think that if there was such a bonus scheme that they could keep every manager in the country from spilling the beans, especially when they leave RM, and I also doubt its even legal to have a contract to reduce manpower by using the disciplinary process.

If there is any truth to it its more likely the actions of an overzealous DOM, who when found out will be moved sideways or hung out to dry. It would depend on how RM think the situation will be perceived in the press (if at all) as to what would happen to them.

[darth]

not true, but as trueblueterrier stated it will go down to budgetry consrtaints.if a f/t position goes they will almost automatically go p/t.however it does seem like it as we have had some over zealous doms that would do almost anything to get a nice bonus.in our office we have a ratio of 60/40 f/t to p/t on which most of the f/t duties gone have been natural wastage and evr.

[stokes11eg]

This is all about perceptions on both sides but in our office after geo route hit us we had to shed a dozen jobs and instead of the last in first out as in every other firm P/T casuals were kept on and we lost four F/T posties for sickness not doing D2Ds in the 6 weeks of the review. After that wastage and laying off of a few casuals. I dont think its policy but if management can beat people with a stick and make savings then they will. One good thing is one of the guys has been giving his job back with full back pay because they stuffed up the paperwork.The other thing that is a concearn to me seems to be the tacit agreement from the CWU to these job cuts without direct involvement of the members or was this another thing hidden in the 2007 shafting we took?

:nanaIn our office, it has seemed that every time they need to shed staff, they always get rid of people through the disciplinary route----usually people who should have been out the door long ago,-but have been let off for years with
poor standards etc.Maybe this is how the rumours started.

[terrace]

The only news I've heard on the bonus front is - Managers will get a 2 per cent bonus on their salary if mail is cleared with no failures and also a 10 per cent bonus on their salary if they can achieve a certian amount of cutback in hours.

[redman]

This is total rubbish! A bonus for getting rid of full time staff?? This would not only be immoral I am sure it would also raise some legal issues. Many on here have a low opinion of DOM,s but this is honestly a joke if anyone honestly thinks we get a bonus for using the conduct code. The conduct code is supposed to be used to correct unaccepatble behaviour and only in a reasonable and justified occasions are staffed dismissed with rare exceptions.

[DGP1]

This is total rubbish! A bonus for getting rid of full time staff?? This would not only be immoral I am sure it would also raise some legal issues. Many on here have a low opinion of DOM,s but this is honestly a joke if anyone honestly thinks we get a bonus for using the conduct code. The conduct code is supposed to be used to correct unaccepatble behaviour and only in a reasonable and justified occasions are staffed dismissed with rare exceptions.

Unfortunatley many staff are being taken down the conduct code for minor issues (my DOMs latest threat is to check everybody tyre pressure and if they are incorrect they'd be conducted or in his exact words 'you'll be out of a job before the Woolworths staff' ).

[norbert]

This is total rubbish! A bonus for getting rid of full time staff?? This would not only be immoral I am sure it would also raise some legal issues. Many on here have a low opinion of DOM,s but this is honestly a joke if anyone honestly thinks we get a bonus for using the conduct code. The conduct code is supposed to be used to correct unaccepatble behaviour and only in a reasonable and justified occasions are staffed dismissed with rare exceptions.

Unfortunatley many staff are being taken down the conduct code for minor issues (my DOMs latest threat is to check everybody tyre pressure and if they are incorrect they'd be conducted or in his exact words 'you'll be out of a job before the Woolworths staff' ).

pathetic ! - you will get this fear inducing union bashing with possible privatization on the horizon - animal house management - clones from :lfo 's lobotomy lab and corruption - all p*** and wind - seen them come , seen them go

DUM's are supposed to be :lfo 's mouthpieces - enough said !

[DGP1]

One of our managers is running around saying your gonna be lucky to have a job and there is gonna be "BIG" changes this year! Blah Blah Blah (like they can make office work any worse.) This is coupled with a new crackdown on Helmets Hi Viz docket and cutting off ect ect. The good thing is some off the weaker ones in our office seem to be getting a spine at last. LOL.

Same thing is happening in my office, they must've been a special delivery of spines over Christmas

[guvenor]

no its not ! spinless ones are ones who run IL DO IT otime and their cutting back their ot now and their no happy now
but boss i did this and i did that what they dont do is job properly and ive never seen as many backstabbers for ot in my life
they even come in before their time to beg ot and i mean early 3-4hrs no kidding hoping for ot if not they box own roads for zero wages and then zoom away in own vehicles laughing at ft workers still in office

[POSTMAN]

This is total rubbish! A bonus for getting rid of full time staff?? This would not only be immoral I am sure it would also raise some legal issues. Many on here have a low opinion of DOM,s but this is honestly a joke if anyone honestly thinks we get a bonus for using the conduct code. The conduct code is supposed to be used to correct unaccepatble behaviour and only in a reasonable and justified occasions are staffed dismissed with rare exceptions.

Chill,he did mention that it was only a rumour.

Speaking of a rumour that is not a rumour but is fact as i saw an email that my old DOM had that sick stage warnings down in my part of London being issued had fallen below a certain % and that it had to be upped!!
Did you get one?

[BIG AL]

Good point and there are some w*nkers that need culling! But its very funny how the office creeps and flyers get away with being sh*t because they take out the extra bundle for nothing are at the call of a lino when needed for O/T and come in early for NO pay. As a cover for five duties once, the worst one by far is still up their bums although (I) and presume RM had more complaints about him from the walk than i ever heard from the other four added together and has never been coded for sickness miss deliveries or the fact he is CR*P as a postie (even one of the supermarkets sacked him for being sh*t!) but still RM employ this person! Why? because he SUCKS up! Although one of the F/T posties who got sacked had the temerity to do his job properly so they found a reason to get rid of him for sickness. HEE HEE he got his job back with back pay. LOL. The disciplinary route is fine if used fairly but in our office it aint! Still glad it is in yours? Good luck were all gonna need it me thinks!

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Funny we have a couple of brown noses in our office as well.
Its a small world.
Lets hope they get what they are due!

[jaylime]

we had a walk taken out last year and 3 staff left,the staff have not been replaced and now withe the walks at 4hours they want to take another out.thing is is we only have six walks and two rurals and one of the walks is ringfenced,so that means 1 full walk split into 5.christ it going to be 5 hour deliverys.ps im glad im on a rural.

[redman]

This is total rubbish! A bonus for getting rid of full time staff?? This would not only be immoral I am sure it would also raise some legal issues. Many on here have a low opinion of DOM,s but this is honestly a joke if anyone honestly thinks we get a bonus for using the conduct code. The conduct code is supposed to be used to correct unaccepatble behaviour and only in a reasonable and justified occasions are staffed dismissed with rare exceptions.

Chill,he did mention that it was only a rumour.

Speaking of a rumour that is not a rumour but is fact as i saw an email that my old DOM had that sick stage warnings down in my part of London being issued had fallen below a certain % and that it had to be upped!!
Did you get one?

We do get a copy of the percentage of stage warnings issued, there is no target in my area, each Manager deals with them on merit.

[AndyK]

We do get a copy of the percentage of stage warnings issued, there is no target in my area, each Manager deals with them on merit.

This is stretching the truth since more and more RTU (Stage 3 attendance) are happening than ever before, many are not sacked due to the fact that managers are told to issue all warnings in order to make staff go through the stress of a stage 3 attendance interview. Yep bullying however it's a attendance "procedure" so not illegal to issue a stage warning even if it's not merited.