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Business chiefs urge minimum wage freeze

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20081229/tu ... 41d_1.html

Business chiefs urge minimum wage freeze

The British Chambers of Commerce said on Monday it was calling for the national minimum wage to be frozen in 2009 due to the faltering state of the economy.

The BCC has written to the Low Pay Commission public body -- which advises the government on the rate -- saying it should remain at current levels until economic conditions had significantly improved.

The minimum wage stands at 5.73 pounds an hour for adults, 4.77 pounds for 18- to 21-year-olds and 3.53 pounds for 16- and 17-year-olds.

An increase in 2009 in line with the 2008 rise introduced in October would cost businesses 300 million pounds, said the BCC, the national body for a powerful and influential network of accredited chambers of commerce.

As the economy slides into recession, many hard-pressed firms would be unable to afford such a rise, the BCC said.

"We're not opposed to the minimum wage going up when employment is high and the economy is doing well," said BCC director general David Frost.

"But when jobs are being lost daily and a recession is in full swing, it makes no sense to increase it.

"Most businesses are prioritising survival at the moment. A rise in minimum wage would not help firms hold onto staff and would simply add to unemployment."

The BCC is forecasting that three million people will be out of work by 2010.

The number of people claiming jobless benefits leapt in November by the biggest monthly amount for more than 17 years, official data showed, soaring by 75,700 from October to 1.07 million people.

Meanwhile, the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) warned that 2009 could be the worst year for jobs in two decades, with 600,000 workers facing redundancy and others having their pay frozen.

The employment organisation, which represents managers and personnel staff said that the period between New Year and Easter would be the worst for redundancies since 1991.

The next 12 months "will be the worst year for jobs in almost two decades," said CIPD chief economist John Philpott.

"The CIPD's annual barometer forecast is that the UK economy will shed at least 600,000 jobs in 2009.

"Assuming the economy bottoms out in the second half of 2009, job losses are likely to continue into 2010, in all probability taking the final toll of lost jobs to around one million.

"Our current expectation, based on available survey evidence and employer soundings, is that the number of redundancies will jump sharply in the early months of 2009, once employers take stock of the economic outlook."


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Re: Business chiefs urge minimum wage freeze

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I can undertsand this call being made if they added the caveat "....for small businesses with X number of employees or less, but we would much rather the Government take on the burden for these small businesses, much as they have with large multinational businesses - many of whom contributed directly or indirectly to the current financial situation."

Or is that too left wing for the BCC / too right wing for Unite, etc?
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I wonder how many of those campaigning for the Minimum Wage to be frozen, are earning(?) less than £30,000? :no no :arrrghhh
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perhaps those requesting a wage freeze would be happy to drop the same % of income the freeze would stop the min wage rising by?
also accepting not to accept bonuses in the same period the freeze is in place
plus of course no wage rises in that time ;)
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custard wrote:perhaps those requesting a wage freeze would be happy to drop the same % of income the freeze would stop the min wage rising by?
also accepting not to accept bonuses in the same period the freeze is in place
plus of course no wage rises in that time ;)
Spot on, it's their fault the economy is in the state it is in. Let them suffer as well as the poorest and see how they like it, even better, pay them the minimum wage they think is too much.
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Re: Business chiefs urge minimum wage freeze

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I listened to 5live yesterday talking about this, and one bloke reckoned they should have a decrease, and another reckons £13k was good money. What planet do these people live on, I don't see them giving their workers inflation rises when the going was good. We all know most bosses in the last 5 years plus have taken double digit wage rises, so as someone else said, let them take a pay cut. This country gets worse, employers just don't give a s**t about their employees, as long as a do the work, and as cheaply as possible, take no time off, work the most crappy shift patterns they might just be happy. I mean its got so bad even foreigners are buggering off back home.
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What I don't understand about the minimum wage arguement is this...... If we increase the minimum wage, this should increase the tax those people receiving it, have to pay. So why do companies object, if they too are tax payers, surely this in the long run, will reduce THEIR tax burden, and ours, as more and more people get a higher wage, which then means those people get LESS in state handouts. Seems like the only way to break the cycle of low wage earners having to be supported by us all, which, in my opinion has to be a good thing in the long run.
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business chiefs should try living on the minmum wage to see how they would survive,if the country's short of money they should start increasing the tax on people earning over £50,000 and stop people like crozier earning ridiculous bonus's.
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Look ,times are hard ,you lot are all stoopid feckers ,so we've all got to tighten our belts to maintain our bonuses. You know it makes sense :chuckle
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Wicked ain't it?, some of these shites are saying it for real.
Anyone hear that parasite on the news ?" Woe is me ,I just lost £20 billion , I've only got £40 billion left" Must be feckin devastating , my heart goes out to him
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linkinpark wrote:I get lost when people start talking Millions let alone Billions! A truly life changing sum of money would be enough to put a decent roof over our heads, but even better would be affordable good social housing and a good health service paid for by ourselves for ALL. Oh and ALL the utilities like Water / Sewage, Gas, Electric, Schools, Transport, Communications paid for by ALL for the use of ALL and for the benefit of ALL rather than some poxy Fat Cat that feels its OK to deprive certain segments of the population for no better reason than they were born in the wrong area, time or just suffer some bad luck for whatever reason but profits HAVE to come first. Have to add a reasonably paid job and pension on to that list so we can ALL enjoy a happy retirement when we get older. I think i must be a dinosaur sometimes :sad:

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No, not a dinosaur my freind, your'e just talking sense. You must stop that immediately, the powers that be who run this country wont like you for it! :no no