Oh I don't know, now you've mentioned the ladies undies, everytime I see a Tman post I now see a transvestite in a red basque, matching knickers and suspenders twiddling with his spannerdisgruntledpostie1 wrote:Tman does nothing for this site, whilst yourself and Fossiebear make some good points, he does nothing but insult others (while showing a lack of understanding for everything) and brings nothing to any argument.
Thanks.dvbuk55 wrote:Sorry Andy please accept my apology, I can't seem to get beyond the first two words of FmrP's postings.andy2007 wrote:Dvbuk55, I wasn't referring to your post. It was FmrPOSTIE's reply, that I was referring to.
I have coloured his insinuations in red, so you can see for yourself.
And it's exactly that attitude, which prevents so many people taking you seriously. You should be ashamed of yourself!axeman wrote:never mind teaman just take your night tonic if it makes you feel beter
As I've said before: Education isn't just a means to an end. It's a way of maintaining your intelectual capacity. Just because they don't NEED qualifications, doesn't mean that they don't HAVE qualifications. Some will, and some won't.Tman wrote:.There are many, very well qualified Posties
Yeah, I've heard that too, many times. "I'm a brickie/plumber/sparks/mechanic, I am" they say, and the standard reply is, "course you are mate, and that's why you're a postie now. Were you crap at it, or just a bull-shi***r?"
No. There are several of my Collegues with excellent qualifications. I can't speak for them. But in my case, I see no reason not to get a god Education, just because I don't need it for my Job.
The Brain works on a "use it or loose it" system. If you don't excercise your Brain, it will deteriorate. And I value my intelect. Do I take it, you aren't bothered about your intellect, so long as you can do your job?
Come off it Andy, we're all here for the money.So we would be just as capable of getting a better paid job as you are. But we actually WANT to help to provide an important service to the Public.
If you really believe that. Then I pity you. There are more important things in life than money. For example: The satisfaction of knowing that you have contributed to an important service for the Public
Err, have you looked at some of the RM staff recently?So why do you think that a lot of us wouldn't be able to get a job outside of RM?
Err, yes. For example: One of my Collegues builds, and repairs Computers. As well as holding down a job at RM. He could make more money, doing that full time. But he CHOOSES to stay at RM.
As a genre, I think we can be fairly sure they don't emanate from leafy stock-broker belts in the Home Counties, and I doubt education was a high priority in the White Van driver interview....I don't actually know many "White Van Men", so I can't be sure what type of qualifications they tend to have. But why do you assume that they aren't inteligent?
I'm quite sure that they would be deeply ofended by your insinuation.
its not what he says , its the manner in which he says it . he has a condescending and arrogant way of putting his point across , however i am sure he wouldnt give a toss about what we thought of him !!Night Tonic wrote:I see where you're coming from Disgruntled but actually Tman got abuse the moment he arrived because he had a different viewpoint so you can hardly blame him for being frosty. I get similar from axeman every time I post but I relish his desperate attempts to be insulting and besides, he's easy to poke with a stick. I'm probably the least appreciative of the union but that is my perogative entirely whether people agree or not. Tman does make some great points when hes given space to do so and without his devils advocate standpoint, we might just as well have a big picture of Adam Crozier at the top and throw darts at it cos lets be real, thats 90% of what the site does. It doesn't have any impact on anything or change anything and probably convinces the casual visitor that posties are stuck in a time warp.
He's right in saying as a few others do, that if you don't like the job find another. Thats the same for any kind of employment. If I was that unhappy in the job I'd have left a long time ago but whinging about everything and anything makes it worse and if anyone is pinning their hopes on the union to dig them out, forget it.
i actually find you more infuriating than Mr Tman , why the hell do you spend so much time on here reading about people whinging etc, when according to you nothing can ever change ? have you read the report today about the 50 MPS opposed to Mandelsons ideas ? i mean why are they bothering ? why did the Dundee MP pack his job in ? Why have working class people fought for fairness throughout history , something you need to seriously read about and the fight goes on today . tell me , how long have you worked for RM ? we would all love to go and get a better job whatever that might be and many do , but i would like to live in a society where we all have respect for each other and value each other contributions . what do you think of your local roadsweeper when you look out of your window, is he doing a worthwhile job or is he a waster who couldnt do any better ?Night Tonic wrote:I see where you're coming from Disgruntled but actually Tman got abuse the moment he arrived because he had a different viewpoint so you can hardly blame him for being frosty. I get similar from axeman every time I post but I relish his desperate attempts to be insulting and besides, he's easy to poke with a stick. I'm probably the least appreciative of the union but that is my perogative entirely whether people agree or not. Tman does make some great points when hes given space to do so and without his devils advocate standpoint, we might just as well have a big picture of Adam Crozier at the top and throw darts at it cos lets be real, thats 90% of what the site does. It doesn't have any impact on anything or change anything and probably convinces the casual visitor that posties are stuck in a time warp.
He's right in saying as a few others do, that if you don't like the job find another. Thats the same for any kind of employment. If I was that unhappy in the job I'd have left a long time ago but whinging about everything and anything makes it worse and if anyone is pinning their hopes on the union to dig them out, forget it.
sussed him out straight away & so did Belai (calling him the twister man ) - it's so obvious that it's ROMEC v Delivery / Distribution / Processing - I can understand people being very cynical and jaundiced if they are in a very fractional APC but even [b]most [/b]cynical or critical people would prefer to be proven wrong or surprised .disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Tman does nothing for this site, whilst yourself and Fossiebear make some good points, he does nothing but insult others (while showing a lack of understanding for everything) and brings nothing to any argument.Night Tonic wrote:Disagree - Tman keeps this place alive. As I've said before it would just be a whinge room for grumpy old men otherwise and nowt to look forward to except the end of the thread. He's like a bright candle in a darkened room. A ray of hope amongst many an otherwise outspoken but generally downbeat collection of posts, many of which go round in circles anyway.
another disgusting post by this most unmodertating moderator.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:You really don't like posties - that's obvious from the way you look down on them in just this one part of your post. You are I am afraid T'Man one of those people I try not to dislike but end up hating with a passion. You are a snob, who looks down on people who get enjoyment from providing a service, you think you are better than us and you generalise so much its painful. Worst of all you appear very close minded and unwilling to accept others points of views. I have to say if I was not a moderator I would add you as a foe and blank all your posts so that my blood pressure would not rise. However, as we try to promote free speech on here I have to let your posts ride even though I disagree with at least 75% of them.Tman wrote:Yeah, I've heard that too, many times. "I'm a brickie/plumber/sparks/mechanic, I am" they say, and the standard reply is, "course you are mate, and that's why you're a postie now. Were you crap at it, or just a bull-shi***r?"Andy 2007 wrote:There are many, very well qualified Posties
The thing is I think you actually wonder why most of the active members on here dislike and dismiss your posts and views yet all you have to do is read the line I quoted above and realise how it would be read by a board full of posties.
These comments of course only my personal views and not those of any other Admin or Moderator on here, perhaps your Modus Operandi of posting on here may change and I sincerely hope they do.
Well if you don't like it ,you can always leavelover wrote:another disgusting post by this most unmodertating moderator.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:You really don't like posties - that's obvious from the way you look down on them in just this one part of your post. You are I am afraid T'Man one of those people I try not to dislike but end up hating with a passion. You are a snob, who looks down on people who get enjoyment from providing a service, you think you are better than us and you generalise so much its painful. Worst of all you appear very close minded and unwilling to accept others points of views. I have to say if I was not a moderator I would add you as a foe and blank all your posts so that my blood pressure would not rise. However, as we try to promote free speech on here I have to let your posts ride even though I disagree with at least 75% of them.Tman wrote:Yeah, I've heard that too, many times. "I'm a brickie/plumber/sparks/mechanic, I am" they say, and the standard reply is, "course you are mate, and that's why you're a postie now. Were you crap at it, or just a bull-shi***r?"Andy 2007 wrote:There are many, very well qualified Posties
The thing is I think you actually wonder why most of the active members on here dislike and dismiss your posts and views yet all you have to do is read the line I quoted above and realise how it would be read by a board full of posties.
These comments of course only my personal views and not those of any other Admin or Moderator on here, perhaps your Modus Operandi of posting on here may change and I sincerely hope they do.
heardf it all before
change your style thats why we hate you.
time this old fart grows up
tman is dead right .they may be qualified (like myself)but it doesnt mean we were any frickin good at it.which is why we dont do it
Much easier than finding a new job 
