BNP

[DGP1]

I've just had a look at the list and there are 4 in my area

[Sandyman]

If only some of you had the balls to do something about combatting the party,

Been there and done that with the NF. Where are they now?

The BNP are nothing more than a powder puff version of an extremist political party. They are consumed with fighting bitterly amongst themselves and going nowhere.

[norbert]

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If only some of you had the balls to do something about combatting the party,

Been there and done that with the NF. Where are they now?

The BNP are nothing more than a powder puff version of an extremist political party. They are consumed with fighting bitterly amongst themselves and going nowhere.

Re Pro BNP : - should be doing propaganda for The Courier or RM - because that's what it sounds like- it'll be mail volumes are dropping ,RM take H&S seriously , quality of service has improved , RM H&B + RMAP is just and fair and :cfo is a good CEO next and is full value for money + IR has improved next

reminds me of that Boggie 40 on Hellmail or Armani on here

that's got to be the ultimate irony - Hitler's BNP membership details gets leaked on You Tube - I think the BNP is quite capable of combatting itself

[borders]

Love it, we are insignificant, but you all cant stop talking/worrying about our growth.
The leaked list has laid the old trotskyite myth we are all knuckledraggers, wi tattoos and pit bulls, but the FACTS are, its nothing like this

99% of folk really dont care if they are on the list, and me, personally, im pissed off i have not had any threatening phone calls from the tough anti facists.

Imagine taking your links from stop the bnp or even worse- search shite- oops, light, wi convicted burglar gerry fable.

No amount of printed stories is gonna stop the BNP -

The web is a wonderful thing, and thousands of honest, fed up people are seeing the real bnp,the packed meetings with "ordinary" people folk like me, concerned at the perilous state this country is in, thanks to Nu Labour.

New groups and branches are spouting up all over the country.

If only some of you had the balls to do something about combatting the party, id have more respect for you,but nearly all of you are just typewriter terrorists.
I put my money where my mouth is, my heads above the parapet, i say what i think and do what i believe in.
Thank you.
Please, if you vote labour , tory or limp dem, i will show you one hell of a list of liars buggers and thieves, to combat the tired old list of horrible- mostly- ex bnp members

just google liars, buggers and thieves and choose your party.

Amma , you mention " concerned at the perilous state this country is in " , what are these concerns and how by having a BNP government , would these be alleviated ?

[Pmn]

Please, if you vote labour , tory or limp dem, i will show you one hell of a list of liars buggers and thieves, to combat the tired old list of horrible- mostly- ex bnp members

just google liars, buggers and thieves and choose your party.

Funny then how BNP councillors vote through cuts in public services along with these liars, buggers and thieves of Tory, Lib-Dem and Labour. So much for the BNP and all its anti-establishment rhetoric. Just more of the same s**t, more like.

[DGP1]

Please, if you vote labour , tory or limp dem, i will show you one hell of a list of liars buggers and thieves, to combat the tired old list of horrible- mostly- ex bnp members

just google liars, buggers and thieves and choose your party.

Funny then how BNP councillors vote through cuts in public services along with these liars, buggers and thieves of Tory, Lib-Dem and Labour. So much for the BNP and all its anti-establishment rhetoric. Just more of the same s**t, more like.

Maybe they think that by cutting public services that the non-British will be forced home

Which brings me to another question, Does the BNP policy of 'repatriation' include everyone who was not born here?

If it does the Premier League will be pretty short of players and there's going to be great big gaps in our health care system.

And what if the people didn't want to go back to their own countries would they be forced into areas just for them (you know, just to concentrate them all together because it'll be easier to look after them ).

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

- George Santayana

[Big Daz]

If the BNP are not racist why does there migration policy accept white immigrants but not aisan or black etc?

All this historic migration crap is just a smoke screen as most 20th century immgration/migration has been from non whites!

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/

[Pmn]

If the BNP are not racist why does there migration policy accept white immigrants but not aisan or black etc?

All this historic migration crap is just a smoke screen as most 20th century immgration/migration has been from non whites!

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/

You're right but lets not promote Searchlight who are state informers who have historically grassed up genuine anti-fascists. Nor the UAF for that matter, an SWP front, that, I s**t you not, urges people to vote anyone but BNP (yes, including Tory) and generally f***s up any decent local campaign against the BNP. Both do more harm than good.

[borders]

David Hannam, the BNP deputy treasurer, told a party meeting recently.

He went on to explain the party’s line of attack. “Each immigrant who entered Britain decreased job prospects for native British workers. Our freedom is linked to the financial state of the country, and in a recession it is the workers who are first and hardest hit. The truth is that in an economically declining society, the worker is hit, but even in a so-called economically growing society, it is the worker who also gets hit. Successful monopolies are a by-product of globalism, and it is monopolies that decrease the demand for workers.”
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the BNP sticking up for the workers !! , apart from the first line which is debatable ,for instance is immigration a good thing for our economy ? do they pay taxes into the pot ? do they do jobs no one else wants to do etc etc, or on the other side of the coin do they undermine the current workforce by creating competition which helps to drive down wages and conditions etc ?? surely the question to ask yourself is would the BNP in Government be any different to any of the other main parties governing under a CAPITALIST System. as a worker would your lot be any different ? ok maybe not so many foreign faces about, but would life be any easier, would the bosses be nicer, would the rich be happy to share their wealth around more equally ?

[Pmn]

David Hannam, the BNP deputy treasurer, told a party meeting recently.

He went on to explain the party’s line of attack. “Each immigrant who entered Britain decreased job prospects for native British workers. Our freedom is linked to the financial state of the country, and in a recession it is the workers who are first and hardest hit. The truth is that in an economically declining society, the worker is hit, but even in a so-called economically growing society, it is the worker who also gets hit. Successful monopolies are a by-product of globalism, and it is monopolies that decrease the demand for workers.”
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or on the other side of the coin do they undermine the current workforce by creating competition which helps to drive down wages and conditions etc ??

Yes, they are largely used this way. This doesn't mean that the BNP have any solutions to this issue though. If they gave a f**k about migrant labour being used, where were they during the Gate Gourmet dispute? Or for people with a skin colour more to their taste - the Irish Ferries dispute? Perhaps they were urging workers to cross the picket line, like when the FBU went out on strike in 2002? Sticking up for the workers my arse!

surely the question to ask yourself is would the BNP in Government be any different to any of the other main parties governing under a CAPITALIST System. as a worker would your lot be any different ? ok maybe not so many foreign faces about, but would life be any easier, would the bosses be nicer, would the rich be happy to share their wealth around more equally ?

Yes, an all-white Britain like the glorious 1930s!!!! And the near all-white Europe of 1914-1945. Happy days indeed! Proof postive a mono-racial society works better!

The IWCA have recently put up a very good piece on this: http://www.iwca.info/?p=10129

The last couple of paragraphs sum it up really:

There are those who argue for a ‘no borders’ position, for no immigration restrictions at all. This is an admirable ideal, but at present it is not only politically infeasible, it completely neglects the crucial political points, namely that of who controls capital. So long as control over the economy remains concentrated in private hands - and there remains no worthwhile opposition - capital will simply manipulate and regulate net migratory pressures (which ultimately derive from inequality between nations) according to its own requirements. The ‘no borders’ position is simply the liberal flipside to the BNP position of closed borders, and is no more a pro-working class position than ‘send the bastards back’ is necessarily a pro-capital one. Likewise, it is impossible to see how ‘no borders’ would benefit the poorer nations: far from reducing inequality, such a policy would actually make it easier for wealthier nations to steal their skilled labour from them. No matter how superficially liberal the ‘no borders’ approach might appear to be, it has no practical application at best, and at worst stigmatises those who might express genuine concerns about the impact of large scale immigration as xenophobic and racist. A policy that serves as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP as well as allowing capital a free hand can hardly pretend to be progressive or pro-working class. Withdrawal from the EU may reduce the democratic deficit and allow greater domestic and democratic control over immigration policy, rendering capital less able to import workers from overseas and hurt the domestic working class through the creation of a reserve army of labour.

But ultimately, there is only one pro-working class resolution to the problems outlined above: democratic control of the economy. This is the only way of producing a migratory framework -indeed, an economic framework- that is geared toward human needs (of the domestic population as well as of migrants), not just the sectional needs of capital. However, the very idea of economic democracy has, to the left’s eternal and deserved shame, been off the ideological menu for decades, during which time the left has allowed the debate to become fossilised into a stale ‘neo-liberalism vs. state control’ false choice. Recent developments in Latin America have shown that a progressive, popular opposition to neo-liberalism can be built (although one must be wary of the possible development of autocracy and authoritarianism, as has been so often the case before with the left). As yet there is no indication of any counterpart materialising in the developed world

[norbert]

Please, if you vote labour , tory or limp dem, i will show you one hell of a list of liars buggers and thieves, to combat the tired old list of horrible- mostly- ex bnp members

just google liars, buggers and thieves and choose your party.

Funny then how BNP councillors vote through cuts in public services along with these liars, buggers and thieves of Tory, Lib-Dem and Labour. So much for the BNP and all its anti-establishment rhetoric. Just more of the same s**t, more like.

Maybe they think that by cutting public services that the non-British will be forced home

Which brings me to another question, Does the BNP policy of 'repatriation' include everyone who was not born here?

If it does the Premier League will be pretty short of players and there's going to be great big gaps in our health care system.

And what if the people didn't want to go back to their own countries would they be forced into areas just for them (you know, just to concentrate them all together because it'll be easier to look after them ).

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

- George Santayana

I think the "idea " is if you don't have roots going back to 1948 - you have to go back - as to who is going to take all these displaced people - don't ask ! - the last one I know that did repatriation is Idi Amin - Heath took in a lot of Asian people that were booted out of Africa on compassionate grounds , and for all his faults was vehemently against Nazism or any sort of Fascism or anything approaching it .

The other idea is say if you're non indigenous - all your family , your mates will "opt" for being repatriated so you'll be left on your own as Billy No Mates :so it will encourage you to jump on a plane or a boat anyway ! apparently !

The other thing the BNP have suggested doing is playing Sikhs and Hindus up against Muslims but eventually deporting the lot of them anyway !

the link posted from Searchlight about the so called white victim puts a different complexion on things - half those Councillors are too thick to participate in Council Business - one BNP councillor somewhere actually voted for a pro asylum seeker council motion - but it is sinister what Griffin is plotting .

I also agree about the likes of Gate Gourmet - the so called 70's Militant dinosaurs that the right wing media ranted on about were just feisty Asian Women sticking up for themselves - same goes for Grunwick and another one - I've actually heard them speak on the dispute - so the poster is spot on there .

[BELIAL]

Still self confessed racist bigots who should have no platform ,and if this post vanishes too I guess we know how the land lies

[andy2007]

Love it, we are insignificant, but you all cant stop talking/worrying about our growth.
The leaked list has laid the old trotskyite myth we are all knuckledraggers, wi tattoos and pit bulls, but the FACTS are, its nothing like this
Really?
Then explain your next paragraph!
99% of folk really dont care if they are on the list, and me, personally, im pissed off i have not had any threatening phone calls from the tough anti facists.
Up till this post, I thought I'd FINALLY met a BNP Member, with whom I could have a civilised discussion. Aparently, I was wrong. You obviously relish conflict, and regret, not having the oportunity to have arguments. Or worse.
Imagine taking your links from stop the bnp or even worse- search shite- oops, light, wi convicted burglar gerry fable.

No amount of printed stories is gonna stop the BNP -
Neither would I want it to. What we need: Is an informed debate. One which includes people willing to put a reasoned argument FOR the BNP. And people willing to make reasoned arguments against.

Sadly, it looks like there are a lot of people on both sides, who aren't willing to do that.
The web is a wonderful thing, and thousands of honest, fed up people are seeing the real bnp,the packed meetings with "ordinary" people folk like me, concerned at the perilous state this country is in, thanks to Nu Labour.
I agree that the Country is in a mess, and New Labour are largely to blame. But is a racist Party, REALLY the only viable alternative?
Of course not!
New groups and branches are spouting up all over the country.
But they go to great lengths, to try to fool potential new members, into thinking that they aren't racist.
If only some of you had the balls to do something about combatting the party, id have more respect for you,but nearly all of you are just typewriter terrorists.
So everyone who chooses to use their intellect, rather than violence, is a typewriter terrorist?!?!?
When will you realise that print (or in this case the Internet) is mighter than the sword?
Just because we choose to fight Fashism. It doesn't mean that we are terrorists!
I put my money where my mouth is, my heads above the parapet, i say what i think and do what i believe in.
Thank you.
So do I. Next!
Please, if you vote labour , tory or limp dem, i will show you one hell of a list of liars buggers and thieves, to combat the tired old list of horrible- mostly- ex bnp members
Then explain to me, why you were so disapointed that you weren't targeted, by the thugs! Quite frankly, I wish the Police would track them down, and make an example of them. I hate thugs! Even if they claim to be on the same side as me.
just google liars, buggers and thieves and choose your party.
The same could be said of ANY Political Party. so what's your point?

[norbert]

there's that You Tube Film of Griffin addressing a meeting with former Klu Klux Klan Leaders in attendance and he admits it's a bit of a con and/or presentation - so you're right there

[booboo]

The BNP are a bunch of hypocrites anyway.

They're supposed to standing up for the rights of the "indigenous folk" of these islands. So how are 3rd generation East-Europeans (several in the party), 3rd generation Armenian (Sharif, council candidate in Bradford), 2nd generation Turk (Lawrence Rustem), and a half-Jamaican (Sharon Ebanks) any more or less indigenous than 3rd generations Blacks and Asians? Can they be honest with us and say "you're alright by us if you're white" instead of trying to hide behind spin?