CWU Rules.

[BELIAL]

Why do I need to post them? What is there to stop forum users viewing the rules on the cwu website?

Cos like I said ,I can't log on ,probably cos I'm crap at technoogy

[BELIAL]

Any rank and file member can raise a case with the NDC, if anybody on here really thinks that senior officers of the CWU are in breach of any rules then I suggest you put your money were your mouth is!


Alternativley you can carry on dropping hints on RMC never having the balls to to attempt to prove your view point.


How there can be any rule breaches is beyond me, some mbrs may have strong views on the compentcy of HQ officals but to suggest that is akin to rule breaking is madness!!!!

Im off somewhere sane now The Delivery Office see if pegasus could possibly talk more crap than hinting at rule breaches from HQ officers simply doing the best they can.


I wouldnt want to place a bet on it though.

Lets hope not all political officers follow your lead. Heres a few key words you might find helpful : inclusive;interactive;discussion;debate

[BELIAL]

If you want to discuss further lets take Rule2, point1 parts 1,2 and three and see how they match up with last years agreement. Which was the point of the year old question. Course postal section membership figures could now throw much light on this particular query , so do you think objectives were met?

[Big Daz]

If your sugesting doing ones best and that best is not good enough is a discplinary matter then I would have to dissagree with you.


My view is simple, those involved in the deal that was put to the vote did their best in negotiating a aggrement and putting it to a vote were 100% in line with rule 2 parts 1 and 2. Surley putting major aggrements to a vote is the CWU acting in our best interests? Nobody forces the mbrs to vote yes to three major agreements on the trot in the space of 8 years!

I think you should go back to the aggrement that we didnt get a vote on which was the £3 a week payrise deal in return for making savings, that was crap all round!

[BELIAL]

Well lets forget the bit about putting agreements to the vote cos that was not the point, likewise the bit about management attempting to rip us off cos thats a given and not in question.

I can respect your view that our officials tried their best,and supposing that this best was not good enough that disciplinary action would not be appropriate.
Which leaves us with the question, given the unions stated aims of protecting and improving our terms and maintaining and increasing the membership,which this agreement clearly has not achieved , what safeguards does the membership have?
Fair enough you don't have to re elect these people if they are not up to it, but an awful lot of terms and conditions can be negotiated away in a single term of office. Is there a limit to what can be agreed by the PEC before branch/conference approval is required?

[Big Daz]

"Which leaves us with the question, given the unions stated aims of protecting and improving our terms and maintaining and increasing the membership,which this agreement clearly has not achieved , what safeguards does the membership have?"

Perhaps then a new section is needed that says minimise negative effects of change.

As to the PEC question i dont really know, but I assume its simply a matter of the PEC members using their individual judgement and deciding if the propoals go far enough to be ready for a membership ballot.

And finally remember the WF aggrement it got voted out 1st time and then was improved or altered depending on your individual view point. No reason that cant happen with a future aggrement is there?

[Big Daz]

2. Members are obliged to:

1. treat Union staff, officials and members with respect and courtesy;

2. support and promote the Union’s objectives;

3. promote the CWU’s role in the workplace;

4. take an active part in the Union’s decision making processes;

5. respect the Union’s democratic processes and decisions;

6. inform the Union of changes to their membership details;

7. ensure their Union subscriptions are kept up to date.

[POSTMAN]

Link below.

CWU RULES

Link doesn't work anymore sine the new CWU site.
Anyone got it so i can update the thread,i can't find it on there.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

No listing of the rules but there is a download link

the page is http://www.cwu.org/11990/rulebook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[POSTMAN]

No listing of the rules but there is a download link

the page is http://www.cwu.org/11990/rulebook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers teebs,i've edited it.

[POSTMAN]

Rule book updated,see link in the 1st post.

[brothermagrew]

No listing of the rules but there is a download link

the page is http://www.cwu.org/11990/rulebook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers teebs,i've edited it.

No download link is:

http://www.cwu.org/assets/_files/docume ... 1-2012.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[POSTMAN]

No listing of the rules but there is a download link

the page is http://www.cwu.org/11990/rulebook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers teebs,i've edited it.

No download link is:

http://www.cwu.org/assets/_files/docume ... 1-2012.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The link on the 1st page is the important one as it has the CWU page with the download link in,have taken out any references to the PDF in a couple of posts to avoid confusion.
Cheers BM