Bag Check

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 26 Nov 2008, 16:12

madelin4 wrote:
NewPostieUK wrote:
madelin4 wrote: What did they say about the 3 missorts??? I thought they would of took action at that?
She went back to the DO at the end of her shift, why would they take action for having missorts in her bag?
Because we are not to bring any mail back to the office, unless it is to be a kill off, but a general missort has to be delivered, i raised the question that if a foot man has to make his way back to the start of his delivery he will be well over time and was told that under no circumstances to bring mail back that was due for delivery.

So you are walking along The Avenue, you do no2, no4, no6 then at no8 you find you have a letter for The Crescent. You don't know where The Crescent is, what do you do? You can't deliver it, you can't take it back, you can't put it in a postbox...what do you do, EAT it?

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 27 Nov 2008, 21:41

Show me a computer that never f***s up.

See you in court RM

BettySwollocks · Post by **BettySwollocks** » 28 Nov 2008, 20:48

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:

PS. If I've gone too far then I apologise in advance and if anyone requests I'll remove it.

I had to look it up (Arbeit macht frei) and its origins.....
pretty harsh but i think we share similar feelings about RM management.

Post by **ldsposti** » 28 Nov 2008, 20:55

what we do in our office is mark mp (missed prepped ) endorse it and post it back then you are covered so far no probs with the manager.

ad0128 · Post by **ad0128** » 29 Nov 2008, 14:24

Had bag searched today 5 minutes after I entered the building. Just said "no probs" and handed puch over whilst continuing to talk to a colleague. Thinking about it later it did feel a bit uncomfortable the way it was conducted. I understand Managers are expected to do this as part of their job but I did feel awkward afterwards.

opgpat · Post by **opgpat** » 29 Nov 2008, 14:43

ad0128 wrote:Had bag searched today 5 minutes after I entered the building. Just said "no probs" and handed puch over whilst continuing to talk to a colleague. Thinking about it later it did feel a bit uncomfortable the way it was conducted. I understand Managers are expected to do this as part of their job but I did feel awkward afterwards.

Personally I'd insist on a witness for the bag inspection. Wouldn't put it past a manager planting mail in a pouch to get rid of a 'troublemaker'. Remember items can and do slip out of bundles and there may be sometrhing you wereunaware of - no willful intent just a valid mistake.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 29 Nov 2008, 19:08

The manager in my DO checks all the vans after the people have gone home

shelanda · Post by **shelanda** » 30 Nov 2008, 13:54

The way I understand it, if you have time left then it has to be re-delivered but if no time, up to you whether you want to go over your time but you should always endorse and show to dom to cover your ass! If like mine they say that if it is dated it has to be delivered............... ummm! not my problemo I have walked my 3.5hours and have no energy or inclination to walk anymore!! Just do your job properly and you have no case to answer!!!

woofwoof · Post by **woofwoof** » 01 Dec 2008, 18:43

seems strange our office hasnt had a bag search in around 5 years oh and now we can take all p739s home and back to the office next day or after your day off you lot are sooooooooooooo 1900s

dohnut · Post by **dohnut** » 04 Dec 2008, 18:46

woofwoof wrote:seems strange our office hasnt had a bag search in around 5 years oh and now we can take all p739s home and back to the office next day or after your day off you lot are sooooooooooooo 1900s

You can take parcels home for over a day, what about the people that want to collect it?, Are you being sarcastic

woofwoof · Post by **woofwoof** » 04 Dec 2008, 18:52

dohnut wrote:
woofwoof wrote:seems strange our office hasnt had a bag search in around 5 years oh and now we can take all p739s home and back to the office next day or after your day off you lot are sooooooooooooo 1900s
You can take parcels home for over a day, what about the people that want to collect it?, Are you being sarcastic

nope im not been sarcastic we really can take them home (we couldnt belive it either when they said in the team brief)
we have to put returned to the office in 48 hours on the p739

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 04 Dec 2008, 20:39

woofwoof wrote:
dohnut wrote:
woofwoof wrote:seems strange our office hasnt had a bag search in around 5 years oh and now we can take all p739s home and back to the office next day or after your day off you lot are sooooooooooooo 1900s
You can take parcels home for over a day, what about the people that want to collect it?, Are you being sarcastic
nope im not been sarcastic we really can take them home (we couldnt belive it either when they said in the team brief)
we have to put returned to the office in 48 hours on the p739

Have a look at this link mate,coduct code national agreement,open it up and look at Safeguarding Customers Mail.I would not take mail home if i was you and let the person who told you its ok to do this that they are WRONG.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12071

steviemac · Post by **steviemac** » 04 Dec 2008, 21:38

missorts happen due to sheer numbers , royal mail would prefer mis delivery rather than bring back letter and deliver correctly next day.

silverback · Post by **silverback** » 05 Dec 2008, 12:21

In my DO managers turn a blind eye to missorts being returned as it would cost them loads if staff were to backtrack and deliver them.

woofwoof · Post by **woofwoof** » 05 Dec 2008, 18:59

johnnyp wrote:
woofwoof wrote:
dohnut wrote:
woofwoof wrote:seems strange our office hasnt had a bag search in around 5 years oh and now we can take all p739s home and back to the office next day or after your day off you lot are sooooooooooooo 1900s
You can take parcels home for over a day, what about the people that want to collect it?, Are you being sarcastic
nope im not been sarcastic we really can take them home (we couldnt belive it either when they said in the team brief)
we have to put returned to the office in 48 hours on the p739
Have a look at this link mate,coduct code national agreement,open it up and look at Safeguarding Customers Mail.I would not take mail home if i was you and let the person who told you its ok to do this that they are WRONG.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12071

so out of 100 staff who have been told to take the packets home how the hell can they suspend or sack 1 person u have 99 witnesses