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Post by Sandyman »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:2. If I can work to my time - yes you can your contract is 25 hours and its illegal for them to force you to work any longer.
This is a side issue but an important with Xmas coming up. Any links to where it can be confirmed that it is illegal to make / coerce / demand someone work beyond their contracted hours? And any union agreement relating to the above? The DOM's will be looking to abuse flexibility & the Conduct Code to force people into overtime.
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Sandyman wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:2. If I can work to my time - yes you can your contract is 25 hours and its illegal for them to force you to work any longer.
This is a side issue but an important with Xmas coming up. Any links to where it can be confirmed that it is illegal to make / coerce / demand someone work beyond their contracted hours? And any union agreement relating to the above? The DOM's will be looking to abuse flexibility & the Conduct Code to force people into overtime.
Can you be forced to work overtime, or stopped from doing so?

Your contract of employment should include the conditions for working overtime. You only have to work overtime if your contract says so. Even if it does you can't usually be forced to work more than an average of 48 hours per week. If you're told to work more than this and you don't want to, you should first take it up with your employer.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10028439
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Stronginthearm wrote:Hello, I need advice on my rights on flexibility. Sorry if this is in the wrong section.

Basically, I work at Grimsby DO as a reserve postie, one of about 35 at office. There is another small office at Immingham about 11 miles away which is constantly understaffed. So over the last 3 months for some reason (probably because I'm an easy target, being young and relatively new), I am always the one reserve who is sent to Immingham at literally zero notice, even if I'm down on the sheets for a duty at my own office.

I have no car and I'm on a 25 hour contract. I constantly have to wait to get a lift at Grimsby and frequently walk up to an unprepped frame at 9.30am. Or like the last 2 weeks to unprepped frame WITH half the round from the day before undelivered, plus all the packets. Often like today I get finished around 4.30pm and return to Immingham Office to find no one willing to take me back home, often being told to "wait for the bus".

I want to know if I have the right to refuse to sent to a different office, or if I don't, if I can work to my time (5 hours a day), since I have had enough. I have other commitments, religous and family related, and am now coming home tired and late, and I think one more day of it and I will have to reluctantly hand in my notice.

Thanks for reading.
I would never work over time especially 4.30pm & to walk in the office with no work prepped that really is taking the piss ,I would cut off even if it mean's just prep then go home,I am 28 hr contract but with 15 years in so the only problem is if you have less than a year in, you don't really have any rights so they will probably sack you if you don't tow the line, but if you are on a permanent contract over 1 year then you must cut off, there just walking all over you don,t stand for it, xmas time with no prep that will be a nightmare more like 6.30 finish.
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Post by Beefy_Curtains »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Sandyman wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:2. If I can work to my time - yes you can your contract is 25 hours and its illegal for them to force you to work any longer.
This is a side issue but an important with Xmas coming up. Any links to where it can be confirmed that it is illegal to make / coerce / demand someone work beyond their contracted hours? And any union agreement relating to the above? The DOM's will be looking to abuse flexibility & the Conduct Code to force people into overtime.
Can you be forced to work overtime, or stopped from doing so?

Your contract of employment should include the conditions for working overtime. You only have to work overtime if your contract says so. Even if it does you can't usually be forced to work more than an average of 48 hours per week. If you're told to work more than this and you don't want to, you should first take it up with your employer.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10028439

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Post by Sandyman »

Cheers for the link Teebs. The line

"Your contract of employment should include the conditions for working overtime. You only have to work overtime if your contract says so."

should prove a useful defence. Apparently overtime stopped being compulsory in the Post Office when the GPO separated from the Civil Service in 1971. Therefore there is no contractual obligation to work overtime. Not on the one I've just read :chuckle

Management will be screaming "flexibility, you've had your £400" throughout December and using the predictable management techniques to coerce people into working unwanted overtime (trust me - they have been trying it on at ours this week). But, can only be used for 30 minutes, occasionally, IF there is agreement between a manager and an OPG.

One can predict, as is said oop North, "Trouble at t'mill"

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Post by BELIAL »

Well I know everyone else who has been asked to go has refused so
Fairly simple then,you are not receiving equal treatment. If you refuse and get overruled that is discrimination and illegal :evil/mad
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:Applause :Applause :Applause Big up to all the CWU brothers and sisters who came to the aid of Stronginthearm in his moment of need :Applause :Applause :Applause
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FAO stronginthearm (if you're still there).

Are you a T Pratchet/discworld fan ? and perhaps a bit on the 'short' side ?
More importantly, are you brother stronginthearm ? I am brother Bislam.
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