Xmas Arrangements

Digger1975 · Post by **Digger1975** » 05 Nov 2008, 17:00

Normally by this time of the year our office is almost ready for xmas (people on night duties selected, overtime lists up,etc) but this year we havent heard a thing!! The xmas word hasnt been mentioned so perhaps its cancelled this year!! Any other offices in the same situation?

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 05 Nov 2008, 17:08

It's the same in my DO, nothing has been mentioned

so I can only assume that this year will be a total disaster

Maybe this is their plan, provide a really bad service over Christmas and whenever it goes tits up, blame the posties and go on a vicious campaign to cut terms and conditions

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 05 Nov 2008, 17:12

The lists are up in my office, Drivers for packet delivery, Nights and Callers, covering the 3 weeks leading up to xmas

Digger1975 · Post by **Digger1975** » 05 Nov 2008, 17:15

Is it true that the callers office has extended opening hours during xmas? Ours is only open from 8.30-13.30 so it wont be hard to extend ours!!!

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 05 Nov 2008, 17:28

Ours is open from 7am to 6pm

after 6pm there will be nobody in the office to cover the callers.

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 05 Nov 2008, 17:32

Ours is already 7 til 7, apparently xmas opening is 6am til 7pm M-F, 6 til 5.30 Sat and 10 til 2 Sunday, I think there is a Door2Dustbin coming out in the next couple of weeks with the opening times on.

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 05 Nov 2008, 18:41

Digger1975 wrote:Normally by this time of the year our office is almost ready for xmas (people on night duties selected, overtime lists up,etc) but this year we havent heard a thing!! The xmas word hasnt been mentioned so perhaps its cancelled this year!! Any other offices in the same situation?

It is traditional for us not to get an Area/local deal untill the week before pressure starts

So plenty of time left yet

PhilthyPhil · Post by **PhilthyPhil** » 05 Nov 2008, 19:24

We don't have anything official in place yet but our rep had a meeting with our DOM yesterday and current management ideas include... no extra IPS hours, no nights or additional despatches from mail centre. No hire vans and hence no extra packet deliveries or relief collections. No casuals and leave reserves to be sent to other offices/mail centre... so all round total disaster really.

Post by **rhino49** » 05 Nov 2008, 22:17

No details released or even suggested at our office yet but our rep has politely reminded the DOM that Christmas is coming and as we are struggling even now, that staff will not be prepared to deliver into the dark every night to cover short staffing.
DOM replied "I can show you half a dozen people that will work late"
Rep replied "I can show you 50 that won't"

TRUMPED I guess
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Every business I know and every one I have previously worked in invests money and logistics in it's busiest periods to ensure success, whereas RM seem to think that all it needs to do is kick it's employees a bit harder or tell them that failure will be their fault in order to get results. This comes from the top downwards and to be fair to most managers involved - they are told "work with what you have got - there is nothing else"

In many cases there will be no reaction until walks start to fail so it seems logical that the sooner that starts to happen then the sooner they will wake up to the fact that the resources we have are now at best very stretched. Something therefore will snap shortly - let's make sure it isn't us !!!

Sandyman · Post by **Sandyman** » 05 Nov 2008, 22:31

rhino49 wrote:No details released or even suggested at our office yet but our rep has politely reminded the DOM that Christmas is coming and as we are struggling even now, that staff will not be prepared to deliver into the dark every night to cover short staffing.
DOM replied "I can show you half a dozen people that will work late"
Rep replied "I can show you 50 that won't"

TRUMPED I guess
-------------------------------------------------------

Every business I know and every one I have previously worked in invests money and logistics in it's busiest periods to ensure success, whereas RM seem to think that all it needs to do is kick it's employees a bit harder or tell them that failure will be their fault in order to get results. This comes from the top downwards and to be fair to most managers involved - they are told "work with what you have got - there is nothing else"

In many cases there will be no reaction until walks start to fail so it seems logical that the sooner that starts to happen then the sooner they will wake up to the fact that the resources we have are now at best very stretched. Something therefore will snap shortly - let's make sure it isn't us !!!

:cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo

not me · Post by **not me** » 05 Nov 2008, 23:38

k66yla wrote:Ours is already 7 til 7, apparently xmas opening is 6am til 7pm M-F, 6 til 5.30 Sat and 10 til 2 Sunday, I think there is a Door2Dustbin coming out in the next couple of weeks with the opening times on.

same for us
so 7pm finish on xmas eve then?

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 05 Nov 2008, 23:40

40 hrs for me

Not interested in working more hours than I'm paid for

vigilante · Post by **vigilante** » 06 Nov 2008, 10:36

With our geo-route revision just still going on and nobody knowing the ips properly, it's going to be a disaster

Nothing has been mentioned to me about christmas yet and we have a new dim who is a right t__t so he won't get people doing
extra for him

40 hours for us and no more.
Try and work us harder then, we will just work at a steady pace and cut off.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 06 Nov 2008, 11:59

Pegasus goes live next week in my D.O as does waiting untill everyone has finsished their inward secondary sorting and taking 20 mins break before delivery.

Its going to be fun fun fun.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 06 Nov 2008, 15:51

Big Daz wrote:Pegasus goes live next week in my D.O as does waiting untill everyone has finsished their inward secondary sorting and taking 20 mins break before delivery.

Its going to be fun fun fun.

Yea, ours in 2 weeks time!!! Duties 2 big!!! but computers know best!! I have never been a cut of merchant but now im afraid i have no choice. 40 hours is enough for me, can just about manage it!!