Tuck your shirts in

celerycelery · Post by **celerycelery** » 21 Oct 2008, 18:56

From monday if we wear a blue shirt we have to tuck it in but if we wear a red shirt we dont. This has been rigorously enforced by management. Is it a nationwide idea to make us look smarter or is it a manager trying to earn brownie points with his manager?

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 21 Oct 2008, 19:00

No it's a manager who cares for your wellbeing

I'd guess it's a full on browinie points dipstick !!

scooby · Post by **scooby** » 21 Oct 2008, 19:26

pmsl dont ya just love the things they come out with ours was the shoes not long back

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 21 Oct 2008, 19:27

It's just a local thing because we've been told that there will be NO new uniform before Christmas (including footwear).

brothermagrew · Post by **brothermagrew** » 21 Oct 2008, 19:55

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:It's just a local thing because we've been told that there will be NO new uniform before Christmas (including footwear).

Think your DOM is talking a load of keek then!

This is to update Branches and Safety Representatives following the most recent discussions with Bob Taylor, Royal Mail National Uniform Manager.

The background to this problem is well known to Branches and safety representatives in respect of the widespread concerns reported to the Health, Safety and Environment Department regarding the poor slip resistance and durability of the current 'Magnum Hi-Tec' footwear, introduced in September 2007. A significant number of accidents, including 'RIDDORS' (over 3 day sick leave) accidents for slips and trips were reported, linked to the footwear.

As previously reported the agreed plan of action was to introduce a new improved footwear design - "Uprated" versions of the Magnum shoes and boots which have a new sole design and compound to improve slip resistance on wet, frosted and steel surfaces and full grain water-resistant leather uppers. Delivery to Royal Mail of the first bulk order of the improved footwear design commenced during August/September . Royal Mail then commenced introduction of the redesigned range of footwear by 'supersession' (phasing them in) as soon as they could, with the aim of accepting wearer orders from the end of August.

The redesigned shoes and boots are now being delivered and almost 28,000 pairs of the redesigned range have been received by Royal Mail from the manufacturers. Delivery to wearers has started with the new 'uprated' versions being issued as sizes of the old current stocks run down. 3,000 pairs of all styles of the new 'uprated' versions have been issued to date. Royal Mail report that they are almost out of stock of the old Magnum Footwear range in most sizes, so the new 'uprated' versions will start to flow through to most wearers in all offices from here on.

Additionally Royal Mail have supplied a few offices with a small number of pairs of the new versions immediately so they can feed back on how well they perform in the field, addressing any issues with the manufacturers on the basis of continuously improving the product. The pilot batches were issued to Saltcoats DO, St Austell DO and Armagh DO for evaluation. We are awaiting feedback but initial responses are promising.

Yours Sincerely

Dave Joyce

National Health, Safety & Environment Officer

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 21 Oct 2008, 20:21

Um so they intend to issue all existing stocks of sub standard and dangerous footwear. yeehaa litigation minefield, fleece the cheapskates

Aw f.ck it

vigilante · Post by **vigilante** » 21 Oct 2008, 20:49

I was recently issued with a new pair of magnams thinking they were the new safer shoe until i
came down some granite steps and had to stop myself slipping off them and landing on my back or even worse
causing myself serious head injury!!!! That was the second time that day i nearly went over.
What will it take----a death???? for these t___s to listen!!

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 21 Oct 2008, 20:56

Go for no win no fee. Pain ,discomfort ,loss of earnings : the original spec is withdrawn for good reason, a simple admittance of not fit for purpose, Bad practice and poor management hence the smokescreen

Post by **Thorby Bislam** » 21 Oct 2008, 21:22

Re: the OP (shirts tucked in)

Not just your DOM. In WTL this morning we got the same message. Blue shirts have to be tucked into trousers/shorts when we go out.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 21 Oct 2008, 21:32

Do you think that the management could all sing from the same song sheet?

Of course in my DO we have more important things to worry about including duties not being covered and the DOM being an arse.

Post by **rhino49** » 21 Oct 2008, 22:25

There should be no shortage of the new footwear - I ordered a pair each of boots and shoes via my manager and had them in a week. First impressions are good - the boots are now minus the instantly useless zip and although the sole design looks the same there is no doubt that they are a safer (but not completely) compound. I doubt that the uppers are any better but have protected them with a silicone cream that I use on hiking boots.

As for tucking your shirts in - didn't you realise that this is to protect the public from views of the dreaded "postie's bum" that miraculously appears when we bend down to deliver to ground level letterboxes.

brothermagrew · Post by **brothermagrew** » 21 Oct 2008, 23:00

The following is taken from New Uniform and Code of Practice (Dress Code)

The shirt and blouse should be worn tucked into the trousers, shorts, skirt or culottes.

http://www.cwuglasgowdistrictamal.co.uk/uniform.pdf

Sandyman · Post by **Sandyman** » 22 Oct 2008, 00:19

celerycelery wrote:From monday if we wear a blue shirt we have to tuck it in but if we wear a red shirt we dont. This has been rigorously enforced by management. Is it a nationwide idea to make us look smarter or is it a manager trying to earn brownie points with his manager?

They tried that on with us a few years ago - one liner totally obsessing about it. A pair of white trainers could drive him to the point of having a fit. Mail failing he couldn't care about but dress code......

I think this idea comes not from a National agreement but from the management manual of bollox you can come up with to distract attention from the fact that the service is a failure.

celery is right - it's all down to brownie points.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 22 Oct 2008, 14:41

You can order new uniform - I ordered new shoes on Wednesday of last week and they were under my frame Friday morning.

Pat Ostman · Post by **Pat Ostman** » 22 Oct 2008, 18:28

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Do you think that the management could all sing from the same song sheet?

Of course in my DO we have more important things to worry about including duties not being covered and the DOM being an arse.

Indeed!

Love the new smiley btw :mfo