Lord Mandelson: I want to privatise Royal Mail

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:43

Magpie; vulture; pheonix; and heres one for the keen twitchers, pratincole(if you know what I mean). A career politician of consummate pedigree , Machiavelli ;Real politik it's this princess,the only belief is self belief, and if you can boost your coffers and power base you'd sell that as well.
But too many folks with a voice know it and bear a grudge, and Mandy ,though sharp is not as clinically efficient as he'd like to be, so brace yourselves for revelations and a rapid fall from grace.

KARMA

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:48

BELIAL wrote:Magpie; vulture; pheonix; and heres one for the keen twitchers, pratincole(if you know what I mean). A career politician of consummate pedigree , Machiavelli ;Real politik it's this princess,the only belief is self belief, and if you can boost your coffers and power base you'd sell that as well.
But too many folks with a voice know it and bear a grudge, and Mandy ,though sharp is not as clinically efficient as he'd like to be, so brace yourselves for revelations and a rapid fall from grace. KARMA

Its all just a little bit of history repeated.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 20 Oct 2008, 21:25

Here is the russian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Deripaska he owns LDV remember those nasty vans we use to have and he is a big pal of MANDY as the EU commision has said!. THE RUSSIANS ARE COMMING!.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 20 Oct 2008, 21:57

Now type in Rothschild ,another one of Mandys holiday hosts . It gets worse, a lot worse

Eric · Post by **Eric** » 21 Oct 2008, 08:06

As I understand it the main argument for privatisation is that it would bring new investment into Royal Mail but whatever happened to the £1.2 billion loan extended to us last year? The only investment we have seen is lots of extra wings on our frames to cope with the bigger walks (although no money spent on new pouches to put the extra mail in) and we hear of a couple of malfunctioning Walk Sorting Machines being introduced somewhere although I sincerely hope they won't be paid for in full until they work satisfactorily. So what happened to the rest of that £1.2 billion? Is it in an Icelandic bank?

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 21 Oct 2008, 11:16

Eric,

RM have a terrible history of implementing IT and operational equipment. Anyone heard of HWDC in here? If you have then you'll know all about that major kock up. The £1.2bn will be used to modernise the machinery, but to be honest relying on internal staff to deliver this is general madness and everyone knows that non-operational management are those who couldn't geenrally hack it doing a proper job in Ops. These so-called project managers delivering the future of RM is a joke.

This is inspite of Crozier and Leighton knowing that change is only going to happen if those at the frontline understand it and implement it themselves, so if you haven't got larger piuches etc. then there is a major gap between senior exec. and the implmentation at a frontline Ops level.

What is true is that this will eventually get sorted, but it will be painful for those involved. Mis-sorts etc. A few court cases against suppliers...

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 21 Oct 2008, 14:18

BELIAL wrote:Now type in Rothschild ,another one of Mandys holiday hosts . It gets worse, a lot worse

Before it even hit the press well done

GEORGE OSBORNE as well this whole thing stinks to high heaven NEW LABOUR in bed with the TORY PARTY and the RUSSIANS!.

Post by **rhino49** » 21 Oct 2008, 15:03

Eric wrote:As I understand it the main argument for privatisation is that it would bring new investment into Royal Mail but whatever happened to the £1.2 billion loan extended to us last year? The only investment we have seen is lots of extra wings on our frames to cope with the bigger walks (although no money spent on new pouches to put the extra mail in) and we hear of a couple of malfunctioning Walk Sorting Machines being introduced somewhere although I sincerely hope they won't be paid for in full until they work satisfactorily. So what happened to the rest of that £1.2 billion? Is it in an Icelandic bank?

They didn't spend any of it on the wings for my expanded walk - I had to unscrew them from one of the walks that they took out - it's more likely being spent on the extra 4 hours a week in overtime that it now takes me to do my walk along with all the other posties that are becoming physical wrecks carrying the banner of progress.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 21 Oct 2008, 16:07

Any progress on prep test rate in your area?

Post by **rhino49** » 21 Oct 2008, 16:28

Big Daz wrote:Any progress on prep test rate in your area?

nope - it appears to have ground to a halt - will probably resume after privatisation lol

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 21 Oct 2008, 16:34

It wont happen this side of a general election.

After that prepare for battle!

Post by **rhino49** » 21 Oct 2008, 16:39

Big Daz wrote:It wont happen this side of a general election.

After that prepare for battle!

my loins will be suitably girded - whoever the enemy turns out to be - keep the faith!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 22 Oct 2008, 20:50

rhino49 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:It wont happen this side of a general election.

After that prepare for battle!
my loins will be suitably girded - whoever the enemy turns out to be - keep the faith!

The enemy is all in the same yacht TORY, NEW LABOUR , AND THE RUSSIAN.

mailsort6 · Post by **mailsort6** » 23 Oct 2008, 01:52

Eric wrote:As I understand it the main argument for privatisation is that it would bring new investment into Royal Mail but whatever happened to the £1.2 billion loan extended to us last year? The only investment we have seen is lots of extra wings on our frames to cope with the bigger walks (although no money spent on new pouches to put the extra mail in) and we hear of a couple of malfunctioning Walk Sorting Machines being introduced somewhere although I sincerely hope they won't be paid for in full until they work satisfactorily. So what happened to the rest of that £1.2 billion? Is it in an Icelandic bank?

I was asking a few of my colleagues what ever happened to the £1.2 billion the other day. With the economy in financial crisis, RM better 'pull their socks up' . At the end of the day it is the government that pays our wages/salaries and this is probably why Mandy wants to privatise RM so they are not paying our wages/salaries. Whereas, if RM was privatised the government would not have to pay wages they will just collect the VAT from privatisation, from which RM is exempt, the government has to pay back the taxpayers monies that has been used to bail-out the banks. I also think that other public companies will also be privatised and that the government will be looking at the wages bill for public sector workers.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 23 Oct 2008, 05:16

Our wages are paid from the income royal mail get for delivering letters, not the government!

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