Xmas overtime - deliveries

Sandyman · Post by **Sandyman** » 19 Oct 2008, 23:17

Post-Pegasus Xmas 2008. What a thought!

A - Seeing at the management claim Pegasus-revised duties are working (they are not)

B - Seeing at the management claim "mail volumes are down" (in processing, probably - on deliveries, thanks to DSA , volumes carried out are up)

C - Seeing as management are having a purge on overtime in deliveries (even though the extra is warranted due to extra mail, lack of sorters due to cuts etc etc) ...........

One can see Christmas being a very unhappy and angry time in D.O's up and down the country. Lack of sorters means it'll be midday before we leave the office and us finishing well after 4PM yet they'll be expecting us to run round and do 3.5 hour+ walks in 1.5 hours and interrogating us as to why we can't "because the mail is down".

Ah, the festive season. Mistletoe, Xmas pud, the Morecambe and Wise special, the Queens Speech and the management LIE that appears every December - "but overtime is compulsory at Christmas". Our branch gets it's easiest win on that one annualy yet the screws still try it on amongst the newer staff.

With all this in mind I think I'll just work my duty hours this December. One can see the return of the Xmas delivery casual - not through planning but through panic.

Your thoughts please.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 20 Oct 2008, 13:37

well, i will do what suits me at xmas, depends how many tips i have pending weather i work my day of or not

Post by **riverdale** » 20 Oct 2008, 14:27

GO IN ONTIME ( DONT MOAN ABOUT OVERTIME IF YOU GO IN AN HOUR EARLY AND WORK FOR NOTHING ! )

HAVE A MEAL BREAK

WORK TO YOUR TIME

JOB DONE

GO HOME

:lfo :cfo

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » 20 Oct 2008, 16:29

It will be a jolly cut off time for me, no overtime at all, so its looking like one of the easiest Christmases ever from where I'm standing.

Thanks to these two :lfo :cfo mail may or may not get delivered on time cos all I wanna do is work the hours I'm paid for!!!

hooniebagoonie · Post by **hooniebagoonie** » 20 Oct 2008, 17:00

Overtimeis NOT compulsory at xmas or anytime......if i dont get out of my D.O till midday due to the lack of sorters then i will have less than 2 hours worth of delivering to do (taking into account travelling times and meal reliefs).....they want me to work my contracted hours through the year and not finish early then they CANT expect me to work over them just cos its xmas

pinstripe · Post by **pinstripe** » 20 Oct 2008, 17:34

hooniebagoonie wrote:Overtimeis NOT compulsory at xmas or anytime......if i dont get out of my D.O till midday due to the lack of sorters then i will have less than 2 hours worth of delivering to do (taking into account travelling times and meal reliefs).....they want me to work my contracted hours through the year and not finish early then they CANT expect me to work over them just cos its xmas

I'd love to get out at midday during Christmas pressure. It'd give me 30 minutes including travelling time to complete my duty. 15 minutes out and 15 minutes back. I wonder who is going to deliver the mail as so many of us will be doing exactly what Mr Crozier wants us to do. (Work the hours we are paid for)

What about goodwill then? I hear you say....well, you can only withdraw it once and they haven't done anything yet to get it back have they.

guswood · Post by **guswood** » 20 Oct 2008, 19:53

Christmas is payback time

paul_skinback · Post by **paul_skinback** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:03

riverdale wrote:GO IN ONTIME ( DONT MOAN ABOUT OVERTIME IF YOU GO IN AN HOUR EARLY AND WORK FOR NOTHING ! )

HAVE A MEAL BREAK

WORK TO YOUR TIME

JOB DONE

GO HOME

:lfo :cfo

Stunning and very true well said

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:23

Pegasus goes live 10th november in my D.O, some members think its daft to bring it in before xmas. But if RM want to take the cahnce thats up to them, were paid to work not think.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 21 Oct 2008, 18:14

Big Daz wrote:Pegasus goes live 10th november in my D.O, some members think its daft to bring it in before xmas. But if RM want to take the cahnce thats up to them, were paid to work not think.

your office will be fun at xmas..... everyone works to there finish time, have a break and all of course

lifesentence · Post by **lifesentence** » 21 Oct 2008, 19:31

Bloody Pegasus!!! It was updated from the A+ which itself was not updated. So nothing is going to work. Then we sell the info to Tom Tom ites and theirs dont work also. Technology is a wonderful thing shame RM don't know how to use it.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 21 Oct 2008, 21:19

madelin4 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:Pegasus goes live 10th november in my D.O, some members think its daft to bring it in before xmas. But if RM want to take the cahnce thats up to them, were paid to work not think.
your office will be fun at xmas..... everyone works to there finish time, have a break and all of course

Have a break? CWU members have a break in my office is a lost cause untill recently when the Area Delivery rep got senior mangement to agree to enforce a minium of 20 mins break to be taken before delivery as part of a area aggrement for phase 3 which we will commence at the same time as pegasus.

The other good news on getting members is around them starting early, when pegasus goes in the DOM has said no leaves for delivery untill all the IPS mail is in the prep frames (office missorts connection issue) so if somebody comes in early they will end up waiting with nothing to do.

Pegasus has only taken one delivery out and the part timers are also moving from a 28 hour week to a 30 hour week so its not that drastic a change however my members do think RM are daft bringing it in this side of xmas.

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 22 Oct 2008, 19:40

I dont think i will be doing any Xmas pressure this year(the first time in 22 years)as our duties are 10 hour days and thats enough for me.Ok we may have a couple of nights put back in but finishing at 15.30 is late enough.Ive heard we are getting 16 hours S/A over the 2 week period(same as last year)but weve all got longer walks and it gets dark at about 16.00.

scooby · Post by **scooby** » 22 Oct 2008, 19:54

can see it been fun at our place they whant the new walks in before then i think its mad this time of year to bring them in.
we have no sorters now lack of full time staff and loads a part time walks

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 22 Oct 2008, 20:01

There'll be no OT for me this Christmas, as far as I'm concerned, they've burnt all their bridges and the excess managers we now have can do it :lfo :cfo