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24601 · Post by **24601** » 15 Oct 2008, 16:34

There's a lot of talk going round our office that Postconn have agreed to Royal Fail dropping Saturday deliveries.

This would give them next years 8% saving by getting rid of floaters.

I can't find any confirmation on the news or Postconns site.

Simple question - does anyone know if a deal has been agreed or not ????

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 15 Oct 2008, 16:57

Not sure if matrix (floating) duties would go in the event of a mon-fri working week. Im hearing rumours of a 4x10 hours shift pattern to accomodate the larger duties pegasus is throwing out.

Dumping saturdays would end the 'light' monday and tuesday ethos and spread work more evenly across the week, thus keeping jobs. No more hiding the trucks of mailsort on fridays either, eh managers?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 15 Oct 2008, 17:05

Not

Postwatch and Postcom have made no decisions or recommendations as far as I know. One of them did say that they would have no disagreement with a 5 day service.

However - The Postal Act 2000 contains this little portion:

“working day” means—
(a) in relation to the collection and delivery of letters, any
day which is not a Sunday or a public holiday,
(b) in relation to the collection and delivery of postal
packets other than letters, any day which is not a Saturday, a
Sunday or a public holiday.

so (a) would need to changed and that would require an Act of Parliament or a political decision to change to 5 day service. I think its going to happen but a lot of things have to happen first.

Just to clarify I am against 5 day service.

mailroyaly · Post by **mailroyaly** » 15 Oct 2008, 18:40

I know it will involve job losses but it makes sense.
This week monday and tuesday were ridiculously light, then today (Weds) was absolutely blitzed.
No doubt thurs, fri & sat will be the same. My argument has always been that we are not underworked,
there just isn't enough work for a 6 day week.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 15 Oct 2008, 19:21

Since you think it makes senses ,lets hope if it does happen ,your job is one of the first to go

It would be only fair

hooniebagoonie · Post by **hooniebagoonie** » 15 Oct 2008, 20:43

in a discussion with my dsm the other week with him prattling on about how mail volumes are down i asked how they thought they could continue to make savings in our office when we are in his words from 2 years ago at the bare bones on delivery......would they consider making the job mon - fri as all the rest day covers would no longer be needed to make the savings....his answer to me was only an act of change permitted by parliament could scrap saturday deliveries and this wouldnt be allowed so our jobs are safe.......i think hes a bullshitter and the biggest cock ive met as his answer to the same question from me last year was mon - fri by 2010
believe me the change will happen and us reserves are likely to be on the scrapheap soon

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 15 Oct 2008, 20:49

I can see why RM would like it, floating staff wages, fuel cost, heating, electrics, it all adds up.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 15 Oct 2008, 21:27

Ah but our "customers " would pay through the nose to hit the mats on golden hour

Post by **POSTMAN** » 15 Oct 2008, 22:08

The old 5 days chestnut

.............No chance.

bogstandard · Post by **bogstandard** » 16 Oct 2008, 08:32

i'm against it, but assuming that some of our colleagues wishe came true, what on earth posess them to think that it would be a saturday thats dropped.
The big copmpany contracts "that pay our wages" i'm guessing would want to optimise their chances, specials and recordeds in theory stand a better chance of the recipient being in on a saturday than mon-fri. As is being continually reported mon and tues are light so why not bundle them into 1 day.....????

24601 · Post by **24601** » 16 Oct 2008, 14:23

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Not

Postwatch and Postcom have made no decisions or recommendations as far as I know. One of them did say that they would have no disagreement with a 5 day service.

However - The Postal Act 2000 contains this little portion:

“working day” means—
(a) in relation to the collection and delivery of letters, any
day which is not a Sunday or a public holiday,
(b) in relation to the collection and delivery of postal
packets other than letters, any day which is not a Saturday, a
Sunday or a public holiday.
so (a) would need to changed and that would require an Act of Parliament or a political decision to change to 5 day service. I think its going to happen but a lot of things have to happen first.

Just to clarify I am against 5 day service.

My rep says the universal service only applies to delivery on Monday to Friday so the loss of the Saturday delivery is a done deal.
I'm confused.Can someone clarify please

mrlovepantsuk · Post by **mrlovepantsuk** » 16 Oct 2008, 18:56

the 5 day week is one of the reasons why a move to wallington weeks was put on hold in our office

Post by **janitor** » 16 Oct 2008, 19:15

When i started 13 years ago mon-fri was just around the corner, i don't believe it's any closer than it was then, the way postcomm back peddled when dropping saturday deliveries hit the press doesn't make it likely to happen any time soon.

LDV 350 · Post by **LDV 350** » 17 Oct 2008, 18:09

I will be delighted if the mon-fri nevr ever comes in, we have to stand together to save jobs not help RM slash them

24601 · Post by **24601** » 17 Oct 2008, 18:16

E mail from Postcomm

I can confirm that the position has not changed. There are no plans to end Saturday deliveries.

Regards

Michelle Koretz

Policy Officer, Universal Service and Customer Protection Directorate

Postcomm - the independent regulator for postal services

Hercules House

6 Hercules Road

London

SE1 7DB