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South Ayrshire School mail bill is a first class disgrace

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SCHOOLS could be forced to fork out up to £15,000 a year to have mail delivered.

They’ll have to stump up for the cost of redelivering mail following public holidays after Royal Mail chiefs imposed the charge.

SNP councillor Nan McFarlane revealed that schools will be forced to use money earmarked for books and other equipment to cover the cost.

And she insists that the charge is unfair.

The councillor for Troon said: “Schools don’t have letter boxes because they would be obvious targets for vandals if they did.

“When they are closed for local public holidays the Royal Mail until now have delivered the mail the following day without charge.

“But I’ve been told that one of our primary schools was charged £28 to have their mail delivered following the holiday last Monday.

“I’ve since made enquiries and discovered that they’ve all been told that they will be charged for this service in future. When you buy a stamp and post a letter you expect it to be delivered without further charge to the recipient. This is a disgrace.”

Councillor McFarlane added: “My rough calculation of the cost to schools will be around £15,000 a year. this is money that should be used for books in schools.

“It you take this to its natural conclusion I wonder if they are going to demand payment in the same circumstances from all council buildings that close on public holidays.

“If so this would cost a fortune. Our mail is delivered by truck to County Buildings Can you imagine how much extra they’d charge us for that?”

South Ayrshire Council’s education department insist that they now have no choice but to order Royal Mail not to make the deliveries in future.

A spokesman said: “The department considers these are charges they cannot meet and we will be discouraging parents and others from writing to schools in the lead-up to holidays”.

“We will also be advising the Royal Mail that we do not wish to use the mail redirect service.”

However, mail chiefs say that competition laws demand that they make the charge.

A spokesman explained: “There is a charge to all business users for the Keepsafe of mail and due to competition laws, Royal Mail cannot differentiate between customers. This is a national policy which was introduced in September 2007.

“All schools received notification of this change and reminders of the Business Keepsafe service are sent out periodically before any holiday period.

“If we are unable to deliver the mail and there is no Keepsafe in place, Royal Mail will return the mail to sender after three weeks (one week for recorded delivery) if the mail has not been collected or redelivered.”
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when will they realise RM is 'forced' to do this as offering free keepsafe is against the competition rules
same goes with having to request if they can offer free local collect at xmas,they cannot just decide it
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Everyone wants us to make a profit, until they have to pay for the profit. Can't have it both ways.
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Sadly we are now a business and the whole point of being a business is to make a profit. As has been said, it is illegal for us to offer free services due to the rules regarding competition.
We used to offer schools free keepsafe over the school holidays, now if they don't either pay for the service or provide a point to deliver the mail to, then we have to kill it off.
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rem the old saying what goes round comes round
local gov all chose to use different mail couriers ie tnt uk mail etc
dropping rm to save money and get their mail via downstream access
so local councils tough s**t
only what do their mail suppliers gonna think about their mail being treated so
unless they have a cut in fees as well
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Stop being neagtive, you will upset Hellmail again! :crazy:
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Would anybody really object if schools didnt have to pay?
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doesnt matter,its an unfair advantage RM would have
if its a problem then schools can arrange a delivery point or arrange ofr a member of staff to be available
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Its all about social justice and schools having to pay is not social justice.

Lets not adopt a tory attiude on this, the principals of social justice must apply.
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And all the profits go to the shareholder, and all the payments come from the shareholder :shock: :crazy: :crazy:
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BELIAL wrote:And all the profits go to the shareholder, and all the payments come from the shareholder :shock: :crazy: :crazy:
But all the bonuses go to the senior management :nervous
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We all will end up paying for this through taxes either council or income tax just to make these two rich!. :cfo & :lfo
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I'm probably doing 45 mins a day already to pay for Adams Caribbean jaunts :hmmmm
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BELIAL wrote:I'm probably doing 45 mins a day already to pay for Adams Caribbean jaunts :hmmmm
Well thats flexibility for ya we all work while he swims with the big sharks a tiddler like him :cfo would'nt stand a chance with the big boy's!.
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I dont see why they should have to pay for having a one day holiday. If I take mail out on delivery and come across an address that is innaccesible due to building work, no letterbox etc then I have to take mail back and endorse on mail that address was innaccesible. By the rules of RM I have to continue to do this for 3 days before I am supposed to kill the mail and return to sender. Why are schools exempt from this practise or why has no one senior at RM told me that this no longer applies. It is a f*cking disgrace that we should profit at the expense of our childrens education.
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