You must all stop putting up negative news articles about

norbert · Post by **norbert** » 29 Sep 2008, 16:48

http://www.hellmail.co.uk/postalnews/te ... &zoneid=10

One step forward - two steps back - by Mark White if the link fails

pinstripe · Post by **pinstripe** » 29 Sep 2008, 17:50

Cool, I didn't know I was an activist. I thought I was an employee, undervalued, underpaid, overworked, lied to, and treated with contempt by my employer. Thanks Mr White, for showing me the truth, or at least, your version of it.

He says he has nothing to do with RM, but publishes articles endorsing the attitude that lead to last years strikes, so I can only assume he's waiting to 'wet his beak' when we are privatised.

Post by **dvbuk55** » 29 Sep 2008, 18:29

Not so much "wet the beak" as snuffle the snout.

In fairness he does raise some points of interest but it would be a wrong conclusion to assume that the "negative" attitude of the active posters on this site are the cause of job losses. New technology will mean job losses and we have no option but to go along with it. The management must take the lions share of the blame because they have been paid well to manage the future of Royal Mail and have sadly left it too late and as usual go at it like a bull in a china shop.

You have to wonder with the advent of Northern Rock and now Bradford and Bingley being bailed out by the Government and that ultimately means you and I, where the money is going to come from - hmmmmmm maybe privatisation isn't too far away.

Nazgul · Post by **Nazgul** » 29 Sep 2008, 18:43

Methinks the hellmail grapes are of a particularly sour vintage this week!

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 29 Sep 2008, 18:58

Mighty Whitey back to his cringe worthy best

I can't remember reading a snippet quite so packed with opinion, prejudice,inaccuracies and contradictions. Reads a bit like a brain damaged H Himmler on acid. I've grown parsnips with more well developed powers of critical reasoning

Night Tonic · Post by **Night Tonic** » 29 Sep 2008, 19:04

Damned if you do and damned if you don't in this game. Strikes are the same. I tend to agree with him that constant negativity doesn't help the business at all but you have to balance that with fighting sorting closures too. I guess if you took a pin and stuck it in any thread at random, it would be negative. Theres a lot in my job that I really like though.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 29 Sep 2008, 19:38

It pain's me so much that mark white or not so whiter than white can call us all on here!. With his comment's of our less than praise for the destruction of the uk postal system and in being a user of the system mr white should know that we are the cheapest courrier in the land that deliver's day in day out too every address in the land!. It is also the product of lack of investment in it most valuble assett it's own staff and the pay and modernisation agreement has not helped this!. The pay and modernisation agreement was not voted for overwhlemingly but was a vote compromised by the very question that was put to the membership of the CWU!. I can put forward a solution to the problem of our negativeity ADAM :cfo CROZIER should leave at the sametime as :lfo and GORDON BROWN should do so NOW!.

Night Tonic · Post by **Night Tonic** » 29 Sep 2008, 19:54

A compromised vote? We had free will surely - thats the point of ballots.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 29 Sep 2008, 19:59

Night Tonic wrote:A compromised vote? We had free will surely - thats the point of ballots.

Did you even get a ballot paper?. If so what was the wording of the ballot paper for the PAY AND MODENISATION AGREEMENT OF 2007!.

Night Tonic · Post by **Night Tonic** » 29 Sep 2008, 21:12

We still had a free choice, wording or not.

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 29 Sep 2008, 21:27

And some will obey the party line no mater what hellfail is outwardly biased against the royal fail blue shirts. it doesn't suprise me in the least that nighty stands with them on every issue i dont know why i'm not suprised though

Can think of too many negatives why most don't like working for royal fail anymore and it's because of the lino's cowering at every word drifting down from higher up in the command chain are too afraid of loosing 'the job' and are only to willing to do anything to save there own necks (don't have spines) so force unworkable situations upon the blue shirts

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 29 Sep 2008, 21:31

I note your response NT for i now know you did not have the vote in the first place!.

norbert · Post by **norbert** » 29 Sep 2008, 21:41

BELIAL wrote:Mighty Whitey back to his cringe worthy best I can't remember reading a snippet quite so packed with opinion, prejudice,inaccuracies and contradictions. Reads a bit like a brain damaged H Himmler on acid. I've grown parsnips with more well developed powers of critical reasoning

most of articles showing " Royal Mail not in the best light " tend to be on Google Alerts - it's not as if we're the reporters or publishing them

there is sour grapes as someone has quite rightly pointed out .

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 29 Sep 2008, 21:50

But the funniest thing of all is if this govt./business plan wins through old Mr Whites little empire will be under massive cost pressure . You can lead a horse to water,but you can't teach it cause and effect

borders · Post by **borders** » 30 Sep 2008, 11:45

what a strange article , like someone else said full of contradictions.