POSTMAN wrote:Fair enough nighty,but they seem to change their views with the weather!!
They're so f***ing easy to pull up and all,and as for the spelling............
And lets not forget where we are right now, and ,why some voices might spout a certain line.We are all about to embark on "phase three",(sounds a bit germanic,)the biggest independent platform for dissent has been neutralized for two months;it makes perfect sense to attempt to win the confidence of new viewers with the voice of sweet reason. Win their trust and sow the seeds of doubt when IA kicks off.I predict they will revert to type as soon as the strikes loom, and i'll bet my last home grown "tomato" that my prediction proves more accurate than RMC " was almost certainly dead after the first hack"
they'll resort to type - spot on there - always have done - always will do as their articles will appeal to RM Senior / Area & subordinate Junior Management - keeps everyone singing from the same hymn sheet
One of their journalists has had a gender change - that'd make a interesting topic thread in "Lifestyle and Leisure " - as long as nobody starts uploading photographs
Must think we've all fallen out of a tree
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Agree. Far more positive stuff on there than negative. Half the blokes in my DO can't even agree at the vending machine and I'd say the ratio of good to bad was no different to here. I still like it anyway. Still my first stop of the day and they saturate Google news so hard to miss them really. John Cawse writes some good stuff too and he's a postie. Good balance I'd say.
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POSTMAN wrote:Fair enough nighty,but they seem to change their views with the weather!!
They're so f***ing easy to pull up and all,and as for the spelling............
And lets not forget where we are right now, and ,why some voices might spout a certain line.We are all about to embark on "phase three",(sounds a bit germanic,)the biggest independent platform for dissent has been neutralized for two months;it makes perfect sense to attempt to win the confidence of new viewers with the voice of sweet reason. Win their trust and sow the seeds of doubt when IA kicks off.I predict they will revert to type as soon as the strikes loom, and i'll bet my last home grown "tomato" that my prediction proves more accurate than RMC " was almost certainly dead after the first hack"
they'll resort to type - spot on there - always have done - always will do as their articles will appeal to RM Senior / Area & subordinate Junior Management - keeps everyone singing from the same hymn sheet
One of their journalists has had a gender change - that'd make a interesting topic thread in "Lifestyle and Leisure " - as long as nobody starts uploading photographs
Must think we've all fallen out of a tree
'Sometimes you have to search beneath the crust to find the devil'
As Sir Alex might have said if he wasn't into his sauce
So according this article I am now handing around 5-6% less mail then I did 2 years ago? I don't think so! try an increase of 6%.
I read in the latest courier p7 "Fighting our corner" crap by John Duncan, there is a big drive to convince people that "mail is down" - after speaking to a manager and looking at the forecast figures for this summer compared to last summer mail has "INCREASED" and not all mail is being weighed at the mail centre plus you can't work out how many items of mail you've got through weighing, it is a nonsense.
Ladies and Gents don't believe the lies, mail is up and will continue to grow!
You could have knocked me down with a feather when I read that Mr. Duncan article. Been going for hundreds of years and the business brains in charge had no idea which costs were variable and which costs were fixed. They've JUST done a study of the pipeline and it's findings contradict what they previously believed , god help us ,these people get bonuses to.
Given these facts and since the auditors of their accounts sharply pointed out that the apportionment of costs within the business was arbitrary (not bound by rules,despotic ,random ), It really is anyones guess just how much we are truly subsidizing TNT :DHL et al
Couldn't agree more Belial. Chances are we won't really know till the independant report comes out next month but I don't think we'll be happy with the recommendations that are likely to come from that.
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Well if the recommendations are based on RM's arbitrary cost apportionment and figures( Independent auditors, Ernst and Young - We CANNOT sign off these accounts as a true and accurate statement of the companies trading position) I don't think we'll be in a position to really know then. Seems accuracy with figures is not a company strongpoint.
Basically all figures that come from RM have to be taken with a pinch of salt. The company is creating so much confusion with agreements with the cwu that nothing is black and white anymore its all just shitty shades of grey - all deliberate of course.
That statement is more vague than what it purports to explain. Theres nothing vague about the agreement and nothing vague about closing mail centres either. If theres any vaguesness its the CWU's role in all of this.
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Its all about managers being given the green light to do what they can get away with, for example, our manager is trying to say that the phase 3 agreement supersedes the SDD agreement when it doesn't, he's trying to implement a NO CUT OFF procedure by confusing and misinterpreting the agreement and trying to abuse the 30 min flexibility, for new starters this is very confusing and they are lucky that experienced staff and the union rep are standing in to stop this, some DO's won't be so lucky.
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Phantom wrote:Its all about managers being given the red light to do what they can get away with, for example, our manager is trying to say that the phase 3 agreement supersedes the SDD agreement when it doesn't, he's trying to implement a NO CUT OFF procedure by confusing and misinterpreting the agreement and trying to abuse the 30 min flexibility, for new starters this is very confusing and they are lucky that experienced staff and the union rep are standing in to stop this, some DO's won't be so lucky.
Exactly - you'll get that spivvy element :lfo , managerial redefinition - RM have always tried BS with new starters that they wouldn't dream doing with the old hands - a form of bullying
Also it puts the good reps holding the fort in a dangerous position - there's pressure from high and the inevitable "coincidences " for them . :cfo
knew this "crumbs from the table " would be a problem having had fragmentation in a ex nationalized industry .
MURDERERS. Need to dispose of a body? Simply parcel it up and post it to yourself via DHL. You will never see it again.
- that'd make a interesting topic thread in "Lifestyle and Leisure " - as long as nobody starts uploading photographs 
Exactly - you'll get that spivvy element :lfo , managerial redefinition - RM have always tried BS with new starters that they wouldn't dream doing with the old hands - a form of bullying