Unit Flexibilty and Effiency Plan Phase 3

[k979aaa]

The postpersons concerned ie the lapsed duties will be shiped to other offices in the area to cover what ever spare duties are avalible ie sick or short staffed!. Or may have their days off switched to manage ( WORKLOAD ) later in the week!.

But as I pointed out these 2 posties are needed to throw off the rounds that are being lapsed as we dont have the bodies to do this and carry out the lapsing. So there is 3 hours of their 8 hour shift already covered for in our DO. Once you take transport and Meal relief then you dont have much to work with at other DO's.

I know that and you know that but they are all puppet's of these two muppet's :cfo & :lfo !. So if they take the two lapsed duties out and take more off the ips ( walksorting ) will take longer get out later and have less time on the street's!. Meny cutoff's will your DOM need more manager's to deliver the cutoff's?. Or is he going to do it all himself .

[Broxi51]

The postpersons concerned ie the lapsed duties will be shiped to other offices in the area to cover what ever spare duties are avalible ie sick or short staffed!. Or may have their days off switched to manage ( WORKLOAD ) later in the week!.

But as I pointed out these 2 posties are needed to throw off the rounds that are being lapsed as we dont have the bodies to do this and carry out the lapsing. So there is 3 hours of their 8 hour shift already covered for in our DO. Once you take transport and Meal relief then you dont have much to work with at other DO's.

I know that and you know that but they are all puppet's of these two muppet's :cfo & :lfo !. So if they take the two lapsed duties out and take more off the ips ( walksorting ) will take longer get out later and have less time on the street's!. Meny cutoff's will your DOM need more manager's to deliver the cutoff's?. Or is he going to do it all himself .

No chance that he will do it all. He will need to get other managers in but I think it is the same all over in our area.

[DGP1]

So what it really means is nobody is going to know what they are doing from one day to the next, you can be sent home or sent to another office all on the managers whim.

[Broxi51]

So what it really means is nobody is going to know what they are doing from one day to the next, you can be sent home or sent to another office all on the managers whim.

Cannot see them sending you home. I am not getting my a*se out of bed and zombie walking down to work only to be told "No Thanks, Have today as your day off and we'll see you tomorrow". Oh god, I can picture the scenes in my head if they tried that with some of my colleagues.
Kalashnikovs at dawn!
They can send me to another office if they like so long as they transport me from my DO and bring me back again within my 8 hour shint.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

They can send me to another office if they like so long as they transport me from my DO and bring me back again within my 8 hour shint.

Just as the agreement says they should do . Stick to your guns

Working in nearby offices – Areas will identify and agree with the CWU locally a approach (which could include the use of volunteers and reserves) to working in nearby offices within employees’ contracted hours which will include travel times and appropriate travel and subsistence arrangements.

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[Big Daz]

All we can do is work our contracted hours -no more, no less. Whatever you are told to do, once you have worked your contractual hours, thats it and no-one can make you do more than this.

Nothing to worry about then!

[Big Daz]

In my office we are going to designate two deliveries as collapsable when people go sick which is nearly every day.

We all take a peice of that delivery and deliver it along with our normal round.

Once thats all done we go home even if we have made time.

Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office

Straight forward and manageable within duty times on long days

[BELIAL]

In my office we are going to designate two deliveries as collapsable when people go sick which is nearly every day.

We all take a peice of that delivery and deliver it along with our normal round.

Once thats all done we go home even if we have made time.

Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office

Straight forward and manageable within duty times on long days

Do you think that it might not be so painless and cosy in other offices?

[DGP1]

I think the best thing we can ask for now is an electronic swipe card that books us in and out, therefore all our hours are recorded on a computer (and if the managers change them they leave a trail) and whenever we work our 40hours we stop or we agree to OT at an agreed rate (1 1/2x for weekdays 2x for Saturdays and 3x for Sundays).

[trythat]

In my office we are going to designate two deliveries as collapsable when people go sick which is nearly every day.

We all take a peice of that delivery and deliver it along with our normal round.

Once thats all done we go home even if we have made time.

Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office

Straight forward and manageable within duty times on long days

But what happens when you have killer days, or more than 2 are off sick, we going to have talks in the next week or so, and want lapsing only if traffic is below a certain level, we've the traffic we've had in the last fortnight not everyone can do the lapsed work. Plus as been said elsewhere if you can cope with the lapsing every day, then that will be the norm and extra will be shoved on again.

There has to be a level, when no more can be put on us!

[trythat]

I think the best thing we can ask for now is an electronic swipe card that books us in and out, therefore all our hours are recorded on a computer (and if the managers change them they leave a trail) and whenever we work our 40hours we stop or we agree to OT at an agreed rate (1 1/2x for weekdays 2x for Saturdays and 3x for Sundays).

I don't think this is a good idea, it lets in banked hours, you'll only get to see if you have more than your years hours at the end of the year, I don't fancy having to work extra for nothing and then at the end of the year to be told we owe you nothing. RM can't be trusted to work out hours correctly on a weekly basis, yet doing so on a yearly basis. I can just imagine the excuses the computer went down, we think you owe us a weeks free work.

[Big Daz]

In my office we are going to designate two deliveries as collapsable when people go sick which is nearly every day.

We all take a peice of that delivery and deliver it along with our normal round.

Once thats all done we go home even if we have made time.

Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office

Straight forward and manageable within duty times on long days

Well being the CYNIC i am i would worry about the extra piece of delivery if i were you because putting myself in RMs shoes when it comes to next years 5% savings that they HAVE to make! They have a written record of what duties can take extra mail out without claiming docket and those walks can defo expect to be absorbing the walks they cut after April 2009 and you can hardly moan about it because you have already been doing it! There is NO and i quote from YOU "Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office" THEY WILL MAKE YOU and your office PAY!
You know what really worries me? I only have 2 CSEs and even i can see it DOH!
If you dont see it Brother then good luck to you and your guys in the office because your gonna need it.

A top notch area aggrement for my area is being put in place which contains a clause relating to outdoor savings, the aggrement reconises that after a pegasus revision then is very little scope for outdoor savings. All extra work to be prescheduled and not dumped on you on return from delivery.

Dont forget the national aggrement says where time permits and if I feel time dosent permit then I will be making that very clear to my DOM.

[BIG AL]

In my office we are going to designate two deliveries as collapsable when people go sick which is nearly every day.

We all take a peice of that delivery and deliver it along with our normal round.

Once thats all done we go home even if we have made time.

Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office

Straight forward and manageable within duty times on long days

Well being the CYNIC i am i would worry about the extra piece of delivery if i were you because putting myself in RMs shoes when it comes to next years 5% savings that they HAVE to make! They have a written record of what duties can take extra mail out without claiming docket and those walks can defo expect to be absorbing the walks they cut after April 2009 and you can hardly moan about it because you have already been doing it! There is NO and i quote from YOU "Thats all there is to phase 3 in my office" THEY WILL MAKE YOU and your office PAY!
You know what really worries me? I only have 2 CSEs and even i can see it DOH!
If you dont see it Brother then good luck to you and your guys in the office because your gonna need it.

Hi linkinthepark,

You are spot on!
Although the 'Summer Effiency' has just finished in our office on Sat past; the DOM has told a few people in our office that because they are short staffed it will be staying!
THEY KNOW which walks are under their time and will once more, apply their bullying tactics to force us to take out more.
I am in a situation where I cut off my own walk to do the 'Summer Effiency' because my delivery is over 3.5 hrs plus I DO THE JOB PROPERLY!
Others in the office who break all the rules and run about like headless chickens have 'absorbed' [ a clever word used by RM management!] the extra mail and calls. SORRY, but even RM managers are not that gullable.
People in our office are all shouting that they will refuse to deliver the extra calls on Monday and that the agreement was only over the Summer period. But I have warned them that finishing early has gone; and that they will use the bullying tactics of scouting people who finish early. Management no doubt will have lists made up of people whom they know finish before their time; Job and Finish is Dead! Unless you finish on your time that is!
The cuts are going to have an effect on us all; especially those who are used to the life of Reilly!

Come the Revolution, Stay Together and Stay Strong, Brothers!


Stand Free!

[k979aaa]

It is a damning indictment that in 2008 donkeys on blackpool beach have more rights than postmen/women on this very day as i right this!. It is shamefull that royalmail can force and bully staff to complete delivery's without a break in this day and age!. We are lions lead by donkey's :cfo & :lfo !.

[Big Daz]

Thankyou LP