FIVE DAY WEEK

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 11 May 2008, 12:10

BELIAL wrote:Why stop with Mon-Fri. ? Sure that might save 40,000 jobs but once youve set the precedent of changing the USO think how many more you could cut.
Why not deliver every other day? One postie covers two walks, no more next day delivery but I'm sure RM would offer the carrot of a token price reduction

I could go one better - Why not only deliver once a week, after all with the massive reduction in mail volumes it would be easy. One postie cover 6 walks

Darren Bent · Post by **Darren Bent** » 11 May 2008, 12:58

If Royal Fail want to cut cost by moving to 5 days a week.

To save jobs

1. Find a way to do this work 5 days a week and get a week off every 5 weeks instead of 6 but that might be cut in pay. So that would be popular move I suspect.

2. Stop postperson doing two jobs ie driving duty after walks. To reduce job loss in numbers. So instead of 4 postmen doing 60 hours a week in can be 6 postmen doing 40 hours.

3. Ban overtime.

I would scrap Monday delivery for home instead of Saturday. But will business stand for it losing out monday delivery in firms.

Post by **janitor** » 11 May 2008, 14:05

No cos some firms don't get a saturday delivery cos no ones there.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 11 May 2008, 15:55

linkinpark wrote:Now hang guys aint we all getting carried away? Five, Four, and even One day aweek deliveries with massive job losses? After all we have Dave and Billy at HQ looking after OUR interests and when you couple that with a working peoples goverment like Gordan Browns "New Labour" and the stand up CWU sponsored "New Labour" MPs looking after our interests what could go wrong?

Oops. Oh sh*t! Gulp! were in trouble.

We could save a few million by ditching the s*it :lfo & :cfo and a fair few more overpaid executive's!.

dongash · Post by **dongash** » 11 May 2008, 17:33

if we go to five days we might get 15% more mail every day, but you won't be absorbing walks for the summer period will you??? i for one am pissed off with working saturdays!!!! all the people i speak to on my walk could not care less about saturday deliveries!!!! how many times do you ask for a saturday off and get knocked back????

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 11 May 2008, 17:37

dongash wrote:if we go to five days we might get 15% more mail every day, but you won't be absorbing walks for the summer period will you??? i for one am pissed off with working saturdays!!!! all the people i speak to on my walk could not care less about saturday deliveries!!!! how many times do you ask for a saturday off and get knocked back????

Only one problem with that dongash that is who is going to decide the one in six who will go?.

dongash · Post by **dongash** » 11 May 2008, 18:01

last in first out? i don't really know,but two of my jobs before royal mail it happened to me!!! i didn't have any choice, but there again no union!!!! whether that was a good thing or a bad i do not know!!! especially with the way this union has treated its members!!!! they would maybe have to come up with some redundancy policy with the amount of money they are saving!!!! i for one would try for redundancy, but my 16+ years may be against that option!!!! living in hope !!!!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 11 May 2008, 18:09

dongash wrote:last in first out? i don't really know,but two of my jobs before royal mail it happened to me!!! i didn't have any choice, but there again no union!!!! whether that was a good thing or a bad i do not know!!! especially with the way this union has treated its members!!!! they would maybe have to come up with some redundancy policy with the amount of money they are saving!!!! i for one would try for redundancy, but my 16+ years may be against that option!!!! living in hope !!!!

Yes it would cost them a small fortune to get rid of both of us!. But we both are two thorn's in their side!. LET US MAKE THEM BLEED BY A THOUSAND SCRATCH'S AND NEVER GIVE UP!.

dongash · Post by **dongash** » 11 May 2008, 18:16

I think my back will give up (even with the decline in mail volumes!!!) before i do!!!!

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 11 May 2008, 18:17

dongash wrote:I think my back will give up (even with the decline in mail volumes!!!) before i do!!!!

There's a joke there

your back will be broken but will it be anywhere near a mountain

dongash · Post by **dongash** » 11 May 2008, 18:26

"In the post office,you can sail the seven seas!!!!"

speedfreak191a · Post by **speedfreak191a** » 12 May 2008, 14:20

i dont mind delivering on a saturday as its usually pretty light anyway,its just losing a friday night that im fed up with. i wouldnt mind taking a bit more mailout on a monday and tuesday rather than a saturday as they are usually pretty light days too

Post by **dvbuk55** » 12 May 2008, 14:49

Why not drop Saturdays?

Increase holidays, maintain the USO over five days, instead of looking to increase the workload why not decrease the workload and increase the D2D and keep the staff at its present level - well almost - we wouldn't need to cover for sickness and absence we would have the staff available.

sevenandseven · Post by **sevenandseven** » 12 May 2008, 16:01

Here is the ultimate solution.

Get the customers to collect all their mail not just the 739s you have to leave on Saturday because the lazy so and sos can't be bothered to get out of bed to answer the door.

traww · Post by **traww** » 12 May 2008, 16:08

.....Copy it to here.

Quote from

http://www.psc.gov.uk/universal-service.html

Reads

" Universal service

The universal service means that anyone in the UK can post letters and parcels to any other part of the country at the same affordable rates. And it guarantees one delivery of mail for every UK household and business, each working day, and one collection of mail, six days a week.

So is saturday a working day? For everyone? Taken litterally this reads that mail must be delivered 5 days a week (as i assume that most mere mortals actually only work Mon - Fri) and collections undertaken 6 days a week. I know this is not a transcript of the Act of Parliament but surely if it is on the POSTCOMM websie it must bear some resemblance to the legislation. Moreover if Saturday is deemed a working day then why is it not worded as follows (or similar) ....And it guarantees one delivery of mail for every UK household and business, and one collection of mail, six days a week.

Indeed could this have originally been worded in this way to muddy the waters/leave it open to interpretation in case such a circumstance as we find in the current climate to allow POSTCOMM to allow USO to become profitable again but only delivering Mon - Fri.

Please if anyone can clarify the issue of working days V's six days a week (in this context that is) then it would serve to clear up this issue. Maybe POSTCOMM could be contacted to clarify this.

In fact I may contact the Daily Torygraph to see if they want to take it up seeing as POSTCOMM were quick to poo their story on Saturday.

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FIVE DAY WEEK

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