Sickness "Stages"

[Jonathan Alsatian]

I've gone sick for the first time since I've been here. Physical condition with hospital evidence to back me up.

I'm familiar with the loss of pay side of things (doesn't apply to me this time)but not the potential conduct side. How does it work? I hear people talk about stage 1, 2 etc. In my case I'll be fine because I've got a sicknote and will probably be back in 2 weeks but what if I was ill again within 12 months? Also does the length of absence make any difference to how its viewed by the company? I guess six single days spread across a year would be an issue but not 1 period lasting six days for example.

Not gonna ask my cwu rep cos he's thick as thieves with the gaffers

[Splappy_McSplap]

Sick note seems not to matter. I was off for almost 3 weeks with a torn muscle, with a doctor's note stating I was not fit to work during that period and that still triggered a Stage 1.

[chickenwittle]

You will probably get a stage 1 if you exceed 12 days and you won’t get paid for the first 2 days of your next sick absence if it’s within a calendar year of your current absence.

[Jonathan Alsatian]

Thanks for the info. So 12 days is the trigger point for a stage. I was planning on asking for a sicknote to cover me for two weeks (12 working days) but this will exceed 12 calender days. So just for clarity, are we talking calendar days here? Sundays are counted in this 12 days even though I don't work Sundays?

[sindba]

Thanks for the info. So 12 days is the trigger point for a stage. I was planning on asking for a sicknote to cover me for two weeks (12 working days) but this will exceed 12 calender days. So just for clarity, are we talking calendar days here? Sundays are counted in this 12 days even though I don't work Sundays?

12 days OR 3 seperate absences in a 12 month period will trigger a stage, sick note or not.

This will be in place for 12 months. If you exceed that limit again in that time you'll trigger a further stage warning, up to a dismissal hearing at stage 3.

If you have fewer absences than the limit, you can clear a stage warning.

All days count, including Sundays and days off.

It's all on the people app.

[RHONE]

Ask for twelve weeks off , your still be in the same seniorio

[Barnacle]

Thanks for the info. So 12 days is the trigger point for a stage. I was planning on asking for a sicknote to cover me for two weeks (12 working days) but this will exceed 12 calender days. So just for clarity, are we talking calendar days here? Sundays are counted in this 12 days even though I don't work Sundays?

All the days are counted, even the days you wouldn’t usually work. That’s why it is important to end your period of sickness if for example you think on a Saturday that you will be well enough for work on Monday, let them know this otherwise they will count the Sunday as a sick day.

[Jonathan Alsatian]

I've just been reading the document in the people app and one thing isn't very clear. Maybe I'm taking the wording too literally but where it talks about 12 days within a year it doesn't specify 12 consecutive days. It reads like 12 days cumulatively within a 12 month rolling period. So which is it? 12 days in a row as one absence lasting 12 days or would two absences of 6 or 7 days each within a year also trigger it?

[Rve83ndxd]

NOT consecutive.

[Zicomurphy]

I've just been reading the document in the people app and one thing isn't very clear. Maybe I'm taking the wording too literally but where it talks about 12 days within a year it doesn't specify 12 consecutive days. It reads like 12 days cumulatively within a 12 month rolling period. So which is it? 12 days in a row as one absence lasting 12 days or would two absences of 6 or 7 days each within a year also trigger it?

The 12 days don’t have to be 1 absence. It could be 1 absence of 12 days or more or 2 absences totalling over 12 days. Anything over 2 absences in a 12 month period will also trigger a stage even if it’s just a single day each time.