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SpacePhoenix
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Re: What gets delivered agreed words

Post by SpacePhoenix »

BenacreNick wrote:
Today, 13:14
No more later lorries, they are already arriving to late now.

Anything not arriving in time won't get delivered that day.

Which means it rolls into tomorrow.
That'll be all the specials failing every day then. For most DOs we send the specials out on wave 2.

Sadly I think it's when, not if start times in DOs will be made later, most likely to accommodate the extra time that it's going to take to run batches through the CSS machines once the mail picks up again in the autumn.
tramssirhc
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Re: What gets delivered agreed words

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
Yesterday, 21:28
tramssirhc wrote:
Yesterday, 16:59
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Yesterday, 15:34
The system, as it stands, is set up to fail. Mail Centres are processing DSA under different rules, and some of that mail can sit until the end of their processing window before it even moves on. That alone can add five days before a Delivery Office sees it.

Once it finally reaches a DO, it’s treated as Second Class, meaning it may sit for another two days, or three if it arrives over a Friday–Saturday weekend.

Then you add the sender’s own delay handing the batch over to the DSA contractor — typically two to three days for bulk mail — and suddenly something that pre‑privatisation would have been delivered in three days is now taking ten.

This isn’t a system designed to move letters quickly. It’s a system that bakes in delay, not speed.
Trouble is deferring the traffic creates the conditions for failure. Your description of the processing and delivering of DSA would mean failures and certainly for the DSA +3. It also creates an uneven traffic profile that wong work with DM26.
Some DSA will be failing. If some has hit the time limit for the product use currently it would get release but with the new system if it's not the 2C day for the walk it'll get held again for an extra day. They are not releasing anything a day early.
There was suggestions that the DTS would be changed to release it earlier. Unless the CWU put out a definitive list of what the job is on x Saturday then whatever has to go will go. Even with the increased time span for traffic to be within spec there are still going to be items that will fail unless they go on the day they have to go.
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funkflex55
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Re: What gets delivered agreed words

Post by funkflex55 »

BenacreNick wrote:
Today, 13:14
No more later lorries, they are already arriving to late now.

Anything not arriving in time won't get delivered that day.

Which means it rolls into tomorrow.
But there is no capacity.for the workload to be done the following day. Offices already operating beyond capacity and with the new DM there is zero room for failure. Loops not done then become 4/5 days of mail next time they're due out. It'll quickly become an epic f**k up and it won't take much of a setback to cause it. On bulk posting of first class and that day the workload is then impossible.
postslippete
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Re: What gets delivered agreed words

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Valentina@1 wrote:
Today, 12:46

Go back to his presentation,when he was selling himself to us in the vote for deputy secretary,
That’s aged well😳
Someone find it and stick it on here,
Full of waffle & broken promises,shame to say I actually fell for it & voted for him🤯🤦🏽

Sad times 😢

Found a copy of it on FB

It's worth remembering that you were one of the few that voted! 10,600 votes from a turnout of around 13.3% of eligible members.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: What gets delivered agreed words

Post by TopperGas »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
Yesterday, 21:10
gb93 wrote:
Yesterday, 15:23
In some cases will DSA letters have to be delivered on a Saturday.
Been told this is case by planner
Them DSA letters will be just ones where the DP has got a 1C item as well. All the rest will be deferred by the DTS.
All our 1c arrives at our DO already sorted to individual duties, there's never any 2c included in the 1c batches.
mr hil.
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Re: What gets delivered agreed words

Post by mr hil. »

I thought that all DSA mail will now be classed as 2nd class and therefor will not be due delivery on a Saturday unless a first class letter is already going, its called coincidental items.

Only exception possibly for the very new next day or day2 DSA aka 1st class product that was mentioned before but I have not seen yet)

There will be extra duties added back in to balance the currently oversized unachievable duties. The best thing anybody can do is make sure you get involved with the planning when your office starts it's journey to dm26.