Putting the record straight

[SpacePhoenix]

As we've already stated previously, some DO's are already recieving 1c sorted to walk level in separate trays to the 2c, just because your own MC doesn't seem capable of doing that doesn't mean they all can't.

We put the 1C and 2C through the CSS together, at the same time like it's meant to be. If the DTS releases any 2C, that 2C is due for delivery.

[darkgable]

The Union is meant to represent its members ! But im sure absolutley NO one in Deliveries wants this ! People in deliveries have been pushing themselves to the limits for years. But know the union and royal mail have decided it will be a good idea to get people to do even more. The union just looks after its own interests in the work place

[Saturn1]

I have to laugh, this is inherently a simple job, everything done since privatisation has been a clusterfuck. These latest plans now look like Trump had "planned" them the way he planned his war.
As for any figures the company offers Martin and co, to influence them, well we only have Kretinsky`s word on that as they are not public any longer.
I have voted against every half ass proposal that the Union and company has come up with since privatisation, so I will continue to vote that way on this. However this time that’s not because it would effect my job (I can leave any time I want now). Its because as a customer I want a reliable cheap service to return, we could have already been on that route, if we had rejected the last deal, and called their bluff.

Whole heartedly agree with this. It's almost so convoluted to the point it's done on purpose so nobody has any clear idea on what they're voting for, and it gives RM leeway to change it at will.

There clearly has to be a more radical way of thinking. Why can't van shares stay as they are now, but deliver 4 duties over one week instead of 2.

duty 1&2 Monday,
duty 3&4 Tuesday,
duty 1&2 Wednesday
duty 3&4 Thursday
duty 1&2 Friday

Start with 3&4 following week.

Excess staff can pickup 1st class/tracked on the duties that aren't scheduled to go out. Put more packet drivers in.

[DGH]

It's almost so convoluted to the point it's done on purpose so nobody has any clear idea on what they're voting for, and it gives RM leeway to change it at will.

It's a bodge.
But it's 'no lose' for Royal Mail. If it works (I know, big 'if') then that's good news for them and they can look to cut further.
If it doesn't work then hey, 'they tried', 'they listened to the union' and it didn't work and they'll just have to do something more radical.

In my view, RM are now just counting down the clock until the guarantees they've given the government expire and they can do as they please. Until then their game will be to keep profits low, plead poverty, and wait.

[claretandblue]

I have to laugh, this is inherently a simple job, everything done since privatisation has been a clusterfuck. These latest plans now look like Trump had "planned" them the way he planned his war.
As for any figures the company offers Martin and co, to influence them, well we only have Kretinsky`s word on that as they are not public any longer.
I have voted against every half ass proposal that the Union and company has come up with since privatisation, so I will continue to vote that way on this. However this time that’s not because it would effect my job (I can leave any time I want now). Its because as a customer I want a reliable cheap service to return, we could have already been on that route, if we had rejected the last deal, and called their bluff.

Whole heartedly agree with this. It's almost so convoluted to the point it's done on purpose so nobody has any clear idea on what they're voting for, and it gives RM leeway to change it at will.

There clearly has to be a more radical way of thinking. Why can't van shares stay as they are now, but deliver 4 duties over one week instead of 2.

duty 1&2 Monday,
duty 3&4 Tuesday,
duty 1&2 Wednesday
duty 3&4 Thursday
duty 1&2 Friday

Start with 3&4 following week.

Excess staff can pickup 1st class/tracked on the duties that aren't scheduled to go out. Put more packet drivers in.

What you have described is what RM wanted, you'd be doing double and triple mail everyday. This caused fatigue and is why the trials failed.

[hans solo]

Royal Mail activated the Dispute Resolution process in January this year to introduce ODM. Why ? Because they are operating outside the licence they have been given by Ofcom to deliver the USO since July 2025.

In July 2025 Ofcom change the USO regulations. Ofcom did this due to Royal Mail financial position and that they could not afford to sustain the old USO.

The CWU agreed a 3 year Pay deal worth £980 million over three years and then we fell out with EP and Royal Mail over how USO reform would be introduced. We could not based on the pilots agree ODM. EP and Royal Mail did not initially want to change from ODM which created the highest potential saving for them.

Royal Mail claim that every month since July that USO reform has been delayed had cost them £20 million pounds.

They made it clear if they could not reach an agreement by the beginning of the financial year then they would have to take the decision to impose it into delivery units.

Our members are not voting on USO reform they are voting on whether it is done with agreement or not.

The DTS can be adapted for each mail centre to hold non priority mail in mail centres until it is due delivery as been done for the pilots.

This means that 1st class ( coincidental mail ) and parcels can be sent separately for all walks ( first class mail accounts for 8% of traffic )

Non priority including DSA would be sent to only 50% of walks within a unit Monday to Friday.

There are no changes to the IPS other than you sort first class and non priority on different IPS frames.

The difference in this model is that the CDV pairing covering two walks do not perform all mail for the two duties as you do now or as you did under ODM.

Instead you will deliver 50% of the CDV pairing first class and parcels and 50% all mail.

This means your starting point is that you are going to less addresses than the current USO and significantly less than ODM.

The singleton driving duty under ODM did two routes first class and parcels for the two walks.

Under this method they will take 50% of one duty first class and parcels and 50% all mail again less than the current USO.

The fourth duty which will also operate on an heavy and light basis can either be shared amongst the three due to the spare capacity or the following 20 thousand full time duties can support the 4 into 3 duties.

An extra 3500 duties coming back into the operation.

10500 duties firms / rurals , HCTs will be switched to heavy and light which means these duties will now be delivering to less addresses then they are currently and can help with the 4 into 3.

6000 part time to full time uplifts to help get duties out on time.

There is a pre deployment plan where no unit can go into USO deployment with full resourcing in plan.

No surplus of employees can be removed from any unit until that unit is achieving all its quality targets and clearing workload.

Read the 26 page deployment and the safeguards in the main agreement and it will have Government oversight.

However if you are voting no ! You are not voting no to change as USO reform is going to happen.

If it is no vote then we will oppose imposition by all means possible but even then there has to be an agreement to adhere to Ofcom changes in regulation.

This is why most Branch’s are supporting the agreement.

This is why most branches have been told to support your agreement
Why do you have to try and convince your members to vote for such a wonderful agreement
I have no intention of trying to make your idiotic system look doable
Cant clear mail just now walks too big
Have H&S been involved with your methods
Wait until the work related claims start

[SpacePhoenix]

This is why most branches have been told to support your agreement
Why do you have to try and convince your members to vote for such a wonderful agreement
I have no intention of trying to make your idiotic system look doable
Cant clear mail just now walks too big
Have H&S been involved with your methods
Wait until the work related claims start

Would it be safe to say that deliveries are being sold down the river?