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Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
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TopperGas
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Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
MW now suggesting that if we don't vote for DM26 then RM will impose ODM even though it apparently didn't work in the pilot offices!
"Ofcom changed the regulations for USO in July last year.
Our members are not voting on whether you will now be o delivering:
1st Class and parcels to every address Monday to Saturday. ( First class mail now accounts for 8% of total letters)
Or
That non priority mail including DSA , second class is delivered to an address every other day Monday to Friday. This means that an address receives a delivery of non priority mail 5 times over 10 days instead of the current 12 times over 12 days.
Our members are voting on whether it is best to introduce the change via the agreement we have reached or by Royal Mails preferred option the ODM.
The status quo is not on the table hence why Royal Mail activated the Dispute Resolution Process as they are currently operating outside of their USO licence.
The DM26 is a much better model than ODM. Several of the Original pilots performed heavy and light during the peak period and the reports were positive.
Explaining the 4 into 3 option.
Under the current USO method you deliver all mail Monday to Saturday whether a CDV pairing, singleton van, firms, rural or HCT.
Under ODM the CDV pairing delivered all mail Monday to Saturday but due to reduction in the amount of days an address receives a delivery of non priority mail then the call rate was much higher.
The singleton van did first class and combined for two walks.
A driver was not on a settled walk and rotated between the core and combined route. Non drivers had to do all mail Monday to Friday.
DM26 means that the CDV pairing is doing one duty as first class and parcels only and the other route all mail. This means their starting point is that they are delivering to less addresses than under the current USO and considerably less than ODM.
The singleton van duty could be performing the third duty again 50% first class and parcels and 50% all mail. Again their starting point is that they are performing less work under DM26 than the current USO and much less than ODM.
The fourth duty which may also be 50% first class and parcels and 50% all mail can then be either reallocated to the three other routes or they are supported by the following :
1. 3500 walks being reintroduced which if it was l averaged out across all units it would be an extra three walks per office. The cost of this is 94 million.
2. 10500 duties ( Rurals , Firms and HCTs will be switched to 50% first class parcels 50% all mail. This equates to 20% of the total walks in the UK. This means these duties will be delivering less work under this model than under the current USO and therefore can provide support for the 4 in 3 method.
3. Any duty which cannot complete under the current USO will have support and may also switch to 50/50.
4. There will be 6000 part time uplifts to full time to support the indoor to ensure duties get out on time.
5. The reduction in the number of Saturdays required at work along with a shorter Saturday will mean you have a slightly longer attendance Monday - Friday.
6. There is an extensive pre deployment plan where no unit can go live until you have full resourcing in place including full reserve levels along with an extensive list..
7. These will be shaped locally based on your own units specifics and needs overseen by the Regional Steering group which will include your Area Rep and Divisional Rep.
8. There is a mandatory review where no surplus of employees can be removed from a unit until it is achieving all the quality targets. This may mean extra duties or hours need to come back into the unit.
This is a far superior model with safeguards than ODM.
Equally there is a chance to end the chaos in far to many units where quality of service is sacrificed because Royal Mail are leaving vacancies in so many units."
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1JJ7tJdwHA/
"Ofcom changed the regulations for USO in July last year.
Our members are not voting on whether you will now be o delivering:
1st Class and parcels to every address Monday to Saturday. ( First class mail now accounts for 8% of total letters)
Or
That non priority mail including DSA , second class is delivered to an address every other day Monday to Friday. This means that an address receives a delivery of non priority mail 5 times over 10 days instead of the current 12 times over 12 days.
Our members are voting on whether it is best to introduce the change via the agreement we have reached or by Royal Mails preferred option the ODM.
The status quo is not on the table hence why Royal Mail activated the Dispute Resolution Process as they are currently operating outside of their USO licence.
The DM26 is a much better model than ODM. Several of the Original pilots performed heavy and light during the peak period and the reports were positive.
Explaining the 4 into 3 option.
Under the current USO method you deliver all mail Monday to Saturday whether a CDV pairing, singleton van, firms, rural or HCT.
Under ODM the CDV pairing delivered all mail Monday to Saturday but due to reduction in the amount of days an address receives a delivery of non priority mail then the call rate was much higher.
The singleton van did first class and combined for two walks.
A driver was not on a settled walk and rotated between the core and combined route. Non drivers had to do all mail Monday to Friday.
DM26 means that the CDV pairing is doing one duty as first class and parcels only and the other route all mail. This means their starting point is that they are delivering to less addresses than under the current USO and considerably less than ODM.
The singleton van duty could be performing the third duty again 50% first class and parcels and 50% all mail. Again their starting point is that they are performing less work under DM26 than the current USO and much less than ODM.
The fourth duty which may also be 50% first class and parcels and 50% all mail can then be either reallocated to the three other routes or they are supported by the following :
1. 3500 walks being reintroduced which if it was l averaged out across all units it would be an extra three walks per office. The cost of this is 94 million.
2. 10500 duties ( Rurals , Firms and HCTs will be switched to 50% first class parcels 50% all mail. This equates to 20% of the total walks in the UK. This means these duties will be delivering less work under this model than under the current USO and therefore can provide support for the 4 in 3 method.
3. Any duty which cannot complete under the current USO will have support and may also switch to 50/50.
4. There will be 6000 part time uplifts to full time to support the indoor to ensure duties get out on time.
5. The reduction in the number of Saturdays required at work along with a shorter Saturday will mean you have a slightly longer attendance Monday - Friday.
6. There is an extensive pre deployment plan where no unit can go live until you have full resourcing in place including full reserve levels along with an extensive list..
7. These will be shaped locally based on your own units specifics and needs overseen by the Regional Steering group which will include your Area Rep and Divisional Rep.
8. There is a mandatory review where no surplus of employees can be removed from a unit until it is achieving all the quality targets. This may mean extra duties or hours need to come back into the unit.
This is a far superior model with safeguards than ODM.
Equally there is a chance to end the chaos in far to many units where quality of service is sacrificed because Royal Mail are leaving vacancies in so many units."
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1JJ7tJdwHA/
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toonshola
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
All lovely stuff. Just need Martin and Dave to demonstrate themselves that this DM26 is achievable as they keep spouting. They can use my delivery for a couple of weeks if they wish. They do a lot of confident bravado talking, time to demonstrate back in the real world how it’s done.
Once they waddle around proving that 4 jobs can be done by 3 people then I’ll gladly tick the yes box to their wonderful deal.
Once they waddle around proving that 4 jobs can be done by 3 people then I’ll gladly tick the yes box to their wonderful deal.
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Perseus
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
The only thing that appears good about any new method is the more Saturdays off but there is a distinct lack of examples being given of how it works which is a huge red flag.
Many groups of 3 (doing 4 duties) will be driver 1, driver 2 and non driver 1.
When driver 1 is off on Saturday, how do driver 2 and non driver 1 do 4 duties worth of parcels and 1C over a huge area from 1 van and 1 HCT?
Many groups of 3 (doing 4 duties) will be driver 1, driver 2 and non driver 1.
When driver 1 is off on Saturday, how do driver 2 and non driver 1 do 4 duties worth of parcels and 1C over a huge area from 1 van and 1 HCT?
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Rommagic
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
What about xmas is it working in two's?.
They will need spares with leave and sickness all year round.
They will need spares with leave and sickness all year round.
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Valentina@1
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
Walsh-ward-bouch…..you go to an office and work this system for a week 3 into 4 and see how you all get on,if you can do it I’ll vote yes 
Can’t actually believe they are selling this crap to members

Sad times
Can’t actually believe they are selling this crap to members
Sad times
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A2B
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
Still a no from me, I'm not going to be told by the CWU when DM26 fails it's what the members voted for
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Valentina@1
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Surreypostie
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
I don't want a longer attendance monday to friday so that I do 6 hours instead of 7 on a saturday. Once I have got out of bed to go, the time I get home really is of no interest to me, I have hobbies that I do in the afternoons monday to friday, I certainly don't want them ballsed up by being at work longer monday to friday, what about my work life balance? Also, how about a straight 37 hours week, monday to friday 7.24 hours per day instead of all these silly start and finish times each day? It all seems rather complicated to me, I am not apposed to change but we all know, letters are not an issue when it comes to delivery span, it is the attendance calls that take all the time. Also, what happened to our 35 hour week?
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A2B
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
No they won't carry on as normal but I say let RM run their company, if they are crazy enough to go back to the ODM then what future is there for RM?
Yet again we are being set up to fail but this time RM have the CWU doing their dirty work
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Rm121
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
Around 3 duties introduced, but 3 in 4 means 25% reduction in duties with people on them.
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funkflex55
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
So the threat is you either accept DM26 or RM will force in ODM. What evidence is there to support this theory? Surely RM saw the the massive f**k up that is ODM and would rather DM26 anyway.
So in reality it's going to be DM26 whatever happens. The only difference being is if members vote for the nonsense or if RM force it through. I don't see a benefit at all with the postie to this new method.
Vote NO.
So in reality it's going to be DM26 whatever happens. The only difference being is if members vote for the nonsense or if RM force it through. I don't see a benefit at all with the postie to this new method.
Vote NO.
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Mr Rush
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
It appears RM know the ODM was a failure and that's why they are entertaining the union's model (Heavy & Light, DM26, a rose by any other name). Alternatively, cynically, conspiratorially, it's a trap to pin the blame on an all too eager CWU when this crashes and burns too.funkflex55 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2026, 16:21So the threat is you either accept DM26 or RM will force in ODM. What evidence is there to support this theory? Surely RM saw the the massive f**k up that is ODM and would rather DM26 anyway.
The machine stops.
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Valentina@1
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
“Back in the room”



DK 100% giving CWU run around,so obvious what’s happening here.
Sad times
DK 100% giving CWU run around,so obvious what’s happening here.
Sad times
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oypostie
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Re: Martin Walsh FB post on DM26
The alternative is that you go back to the pilots and come up with a system that works before you rush it out.what's the alternative?,
Rather than back of a fag packet revisions duties need proper planning based on what is achievable. I know it won't happen but that's the only alternative if things are going to work